My name is PokerBob, and 10/20 abuses me

[PokerBob]

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Less sexy

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i actually have done virtually zero of the sexy. perhaps i need MORE sexy. sexy for eveyone!!! rejoice in the sexy. maybe i'll just get drunk tonight instead.

[Fabian]

You should not fold 40% in BB to a steal. Standard on these boards seem to be in the 55-60 range, a bit lower for good players. I think 55-60 is a good number for you.

Folded sb to steal should be in the ~85 range.

[stinkypete]

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vpip - 22.9
pfr - 15.5
att2steal - 31.5
wenttoSD - 33.7
won$SD - 47.9

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it's just not possible to be bad enough to have stats like this when you're running neutral. you're running bad. very very bad.

[fyodor]

Folding bb to steal seems abnormally high. Maybe you've had a lot of bad cards there. Maybe you're just too tight.

Attempt to steal has got to be at least 35% minimum.

If you are playing 4 tables STOP. Just play 2. If you must play at least 3 add in a 5/10. Don't play 4 till you are winning and comfortable.

[bobbyi]

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Also, I think you are too easy to rob of your (big)blinds. It seems like somewhere about 40% fold is more like it.

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Yow! That's pretty loose. If someone says they are having a bad run and are constantly being put in tough spots by tricky aggressive opponents, I would say that playing more bad hands out of position is not the answer.

[MicroBob]

I'm not looking mine up and am not sure what these should be either...


but keep in mind that these stats are kind of deceiving.

If you have QJ on a TTT43 board then you it still counts as 3 of a kind.

(likewise...if you have JT on a board of AA432 then you're final hand is a pair-of-aces...even though in your head you are likely to think of it as "I got J-high" or "i got nuthin")

If you have any flush-card on a 4-flush board then this obviously still counts as a flush.

[PokerBob]

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vpip - 22.9
pfr - 15.5
att2steal - 31.5
wenttoSD - 33.7
won$SD - 47.9

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it's just not possible to be bad enough to have stats like this when you're running neutral. you're running bad. very very bad.

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like i did against you? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[MicroBob]

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sexy for eveyone!!! rejoice in the sexy.

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this is easily the most important post in all of 2+2 in a long long time.

[Beowulf]

When you are running bad poker can seem like a different game. Some of the Aggression you keep referring to is inherent to 10/20 but I think more of it is the fact that your running bad and they have it. Most of the time when you get 3 bet with AJ you can check/call, check/fold. Even the 40/23 guys aren’t 3 betting that light and if they are cap it and go from there. I am sure your game needs some adjustments but I think it’s a bad idea to make too many when your perception of the game is out of wack. Just practice good table selection and keep playing your game.

[arkady]

I am not thrilled about your river aggression, something seems off.

This may or may not explain your depressingly low won at sd %, which is typically a sign of running poorly. Even with an "ok" 41% river bet, there might be things to reevaluate. 10/20 players value bet/bluff at river with more tenacity than their 5/10 counterparts.