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Old 08-31-2005, 03:27 PM
AggieAce AggieAce is offline
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

Biggest mistake, in my opinion is playing above their bankroll. Too many times I hear people saying that they put $100 in Party and played 3/6 right away.
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

Thinking they are good just because they win a little money and stop trying to improve their game.

I don't know if that is what you were looking for, but it still is a big mistake.
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:30 PM
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For limit, that's a fine list and covers just about all the common flaws.

For no limit, clumsy pushes would be near the top of my list. The result: everyone else gets out cheap and the monster hand gets a bonsai pot. . . . Or the only possible caller is the guy with a better hand. There are lots of gradations between min raise and push -- and it takes a lot of new players a year or so to find them.
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

Thatnks to all who responded. I'm always trying to improve my game. The thing that makes me think i am making progress is when I'm doing something stupid, I'm starting to get a feeling that it is a stupid move...So while I'm obviously making mistakes, I am starting to realize that they are mistakes.
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

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For no limit, clumsy pushes would be near the top of my list.

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Could you explain what you mean by a "clumsy push"?
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:46 PM
RiverDood RiverDood is offline
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

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For no limit, clumsy pushes would be near the top of my list.

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Could you explain what you mean by a "clumsy push"?

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Here's a showcase example. It's the very beginning of a T1500 tournament. Blinds are T10/T20. Newbie is in the BB with 78o. There are three limpers and him in what's now a T80 pot.

Flop is 9TJr.

Newbie pushes because he has a straight.

He will either collect T80 because no one with AT, K9, etc. wants to play on -- or he will lose his entire stack to someone with KQ. Almost any other line of play increases the likely winnings if opponents caught only a piece of the flop. And almost any other line reduces the risk of going bust against the nut straight.

It's not usually quite so egregious, but you get the idea.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:09 PM
SonicReducer SonicReducer is offline
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

So would you reccomend a small bet in that situation, or another course of action?
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

One that has not yet been listed: posting instead of lurking.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the biggest mistake new players make?

Bet between 1/2 to 3/4 of the pot and then go buy Harrington on Holdem.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:37 PM
RiverDood RiverDood is offline
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Bet between 1/2 to 3/4 of the pot and then go buy Harrington on Holdem.

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Or check with the intention of check-raising the poor clod who bets after you, thinking his top pair was good.

You should be looking to get T300 or more out of this pot almost every time. Maybe vastly more if there's someone with 2 pair or top-pair good kicker. Failing to get paid on a hand like this is every bit as bad as blowing off a lot of chips on a doomed hand.

In these sorts of situations, people with second-best hands are aching to give you their chips. You just have to provide them with the right donation mechanism.

Of course if a Q or K comes on the turn or river, the hand gets very problematic. But if an A comes, there's a very good chance you can bust someone out. Overall, if 40-or-so cards in the deck can help you and only 6-8 can hurt you, it's time to build the pot as smoothly and slyly as you can.
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