Somewhere an angel just lost it's wings... Terrible? River Laydown

[Mr. Peanut]

After this post and that session, I reviewed my hands and realized I was fearing being up against straights on the river way too often when another low card came.

I think this was mainly because I started playing in the nano-limit games, where it's not uncommon to have 6 people at the river, and you can't rake in a chip without the nuts. I'm starting to realize though that with one or two other players on the river, as long as the low card doesn't make a wheel with whatever combination was the nut low draw, the high hand is usually still good.

[anatta]

Its good that you are giving some thought to how to scoop when you are second to act on the river. From my reading of Supersytems 2, this is a key position in O-8. IMO, your raise here with top set is mostly for value here, however, you have the high, and you figure to make the A2's that stuck around pay. If you can get the guy behind to somehow fold his non-nut low, and SB has no low, and you scoop that is great, but not really gonna happen in low limit game that often.

From the book, a time to raise to save half of the pot for yourself is when you have a mediocre low and high, and the player behind you is able to fold a hand. Maybe a weak two pair for high, when there is no flush out. You think you might have the earlier player beat for low, or maybe its high, who knows in this crazy game. So raise to get the other player to fold his 4th nut low or top pair or whatever he has.

The book goes on to say - beware thinking players doing this to you when you are last to act. If you are first and get raised, make sure you re-raise against this play when you have a hand that warrants it.

[Drizztdj]

Ouch, Ponch even taunted that fold.

I think a crying call is fine getting 20:1 especially with top set, considering the villian is probably pushing his A2 that hit.