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Fold 6 8.33%
Limp 13 18.06%
Push 53 73.61%
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Old 08-27-2005, 12:50 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

Obviously no reads.
Results left in on purpose as this has happened to me a few times lately. But many other times I will be ahead. No one here folds this do they?

Poll makes no sense but I hope you get the question. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Hero (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t60, MP1 calls t60, CO calls t60.

Flop: (t325) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t725 (All-In)</font>, MP1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls t575 (All-In).

Turn: (t1775) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1775) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1775

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has 6s 6c (three of a kind, sixes).
Hero has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t1775. </font>
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

With 3 limps ahead of you, you should have bumped to about 150 pre-flop.
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

I don't understand...What are you afraid of here?
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

There isnt an option for raise more preflop.
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

I raise to 115 minimum
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

Isn't that just about the best flop you could possibly hope for? I guess you lost to a flush? OK, just checked and saw the set of 6's...

I think the preflop raise to 75 was fine - the goal here is to be up against 1 and with three 15 chip limpers 75 will usually do this - any more and you'll end up taking the pot there and you don't want that with AA.

UTG+1 should have folded after the raise with 6's. No way any of them had KK or JJ. You had to play it like this.

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Old 08-27-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

push isn't an option here, note that you are calling all in. I would call. I would also raise more preflop and sometimes push.
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

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I think the preflop raise to 75 was fine - the goal here is to be up against 1 and with three 15 chip limpers 75 will usually do this - any more and you'll end up taking the pot there and you don't want that with AA.

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At the 22s, a raise to 75 with three limpers almost guaruntees a multiway pot. As others have said, you have to raise more here if you wan to get it heads up.

As for the flop, I don't see how you can even think about folding. People will reraise all-in here with crap like KT or even QT.
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

it looks like you're beginning to doubt yourself if you have to ask this question
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: Party 22, AA 1st hand, anyone fold this?

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I think the preflop raise to 75 was fine - the goal here is to be up against 1 and with three 15 chip limpers 75 will usually do this - any more and you'll end up taking the pot there and you don't want that with AA.

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At the 22s, a raise to 75 with three limpers almost guaruntees a multiway pot.

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That hasn't been my experience at all in level 1 of a $22... A 3x raise then yeah, at least 2 of the 3 call but a 5x raise either takes the pot or has 1 caller the huge majority of the time. Once in a while you get 2 and very infrequently 3.

You are hoping for 1 but I'd rather be up against 2 with AA than 0 when there is 70 in the pot.

If there had been a min raise and then 2 callers then this is completely different and I would raise it 120 to 150 but that wasn't the case here.

Anyways, different playing styles I guess. Betting more is the safer play but betting less is much more +chip ev in my opinion.

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