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Old 08-26-2005, 03:54 AM
daryn daryn is offline
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Default Re: follow me through a hand with many decisions (part 2)

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you call preflop and the flop is

4h, Qh, As

how should you play the flop?
check-call
check-fold
bet-3 bet
checkraise-call a 3 bet
checkraise-cap

any other combinations be specific. and say why. and dont say it depends on if utg is the type to do this that or the other. all we know is his pv numbers, same for the others. refer to part 1 for those.

after youve answered this part go on to part 3.

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easiest flop c/r in the world. i would also just pump the pot to no end especially if it was 3 way the whole way.
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Old 08-26-2005, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: follow me through a hand with many decisions (part 3)

I dont see any reason at all to raise the turn. You really dont need to protect your hand here in a 5BB pot and should focus on maximizing value/minimizing losses, which I think is done much better here by calling as it allows the pfr or the coldcaller to make a bad call behind and probably commits the SB to a showdown if the rest fold, as you could have XsXs or XhXh. When you raise he may drop hands like Qx, which has very few outs since you are holding the flushdraw aswell.
Another benefit from calling is that you avoid getting 3bet when SB(or UTG, though I normally wouldn´t worry much about that on this board) was slowplaying the flop.
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: follow me through a hand with many decisions (part 1)

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15-30 online i have Ah5h in the big blind. utg (12/6/1.8) raises, cutoff (unknown) calls, sb (37/9/1) calls.

what's the correct play?

when youve answered move onto part 2

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Call.
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: follow me through a hand with many decisions (part 2)

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you call preflop and the flop is

4h, Qh, As

how should you play the flop?
check-call
check-fold
bet-3 bet
checkraise-call a 3 bet
checkraise-cap

any other combinations be specific. and say why. and dont say it depends on if utg is the type to do this that or the other. all we know is his pv numbers, same for the others. refer to part 1 for those.

after youve answered this part go on to part 3.

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Check/raise cap.
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: follow me through a hand with many decisions (part 3)

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the flop was checked through.

now the turn comes: [4h Qh As] 2s

sb bets into you! what's your play?

fold
call
raise

please state why and be detailed. again do not ask questions about how sb utg or cutoff play. that is unknown. all we know are there numbers on the screen. isnt online fun?

when youre done move on to part 4!

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Call.
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: follow me through a hand with many decisions (part 4)

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you decide to raise the turn and utg 3 bets it. cutoff folds, sb calls, and you call.

the river is 3c giving you a wheel.

sb checks. should you:

bet or go for the checkraise.

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I don't like the turn raise.

Check/raise.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:16 PM
JimmyV JimmyV is offline
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Default Re: follow me through a hand with many decisions (part 4)

I don't like the turn raise either. To my mind this hand was butchered.

The correct flop play, in my opinion, wasn't even on the list: bet out and call a raise. I go limp after the flop raise, drawing for a heart and planning on a showdown in any case. Why charge yourself when drawing, or alternatively force out others drawing to two-outers who'll keep betting?

This seems like an easy hand to me but I don't see what everyone else is talking about in their posts. Reraising or check-raising flop or turn only induces calls from better hands and folds from worse, while never bringing about a situation in which you're correct to fold (you have the nut draw!)

Limpage for minimum limpidity after establishing some claim on the pot with a flop bet (you wouldn't want to have to call two cold if it can be avoided, since that gives away your hand).

Bet-call, check-call, and of course check-raise the river.

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