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08-26-2005, 04:11 PM
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Re: Can I fold at the 11s?
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I was also pleased that, after I folded incorrectly, the short stack sucked out and made a set on the flop, which would have beaten me, had I stayed in... [/ QUOTE ] good consolation prize I was actually more concerned with UTG+2 than UTG. I didn't think UTG would bet KK or AA like that but UTG+2 had to call a very big bet. 
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#12
08-26-2005, 04:17 PM
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Re: Can I fold at the 11s?
UTG+1 wasn't anything to worry about, as I recall. He luckboxed into his stack and was calling everything. I was pretty sure UTG was gonna try to take the hand and didn't think UTG+1 would stay in for it.
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#13
08-26-2005, 04:25 PM
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Re: Can I fold at the 11s?
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[ QUOTE ] I was also pleased that, after I folded incorrectly, the short stack sucked out and made a set on the flop, which would have beaten me, had I stayed in... [/ QUOTE ] Bzzzzzzzt! Wrong Answer! [/ QUOTE ] Naw, I know that. I made the wrong play and I'm not letting myself off the hook. But can't I at least allow the bad beat I didn't take ease the pain a bit? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] By the way--if I do play here, I push, right? What If I know that one, but not both, of the early callers will overcall if I just call? Do I want a couple of overcards against me, or do I want to isolate the guy who probably has the smaller pair?
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#14
08-26-2005, 04:25 PM
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Re: Can I fold at the 11s?
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UTG+1 wasn't anything to worry about, as I recall. He luckboxed into his stack and was calling everything. I was pretty sure UTG was gonna try to take the hand and didn't think UTG+1 would stay in for it. [/ QUOTE ] IC ---That was important info. His actions were the only ones that didn't register. No UTG will ever rase 5x the bb with AA or KK. You don't have to worry about the short stack all-in because he probably just has a pp, and you have him covered by 3. Good posts! and had you gone all-in you would not have won a side pot b/c UTG would have folded his AK. It's nice to learn and win money at the same time. jonny
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#15
08-26-2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: Can I fold at the 11s?
ok, just so you know.. at the 11s, there are not that many thinking players. the utg+2 guy that cold called the 150 could have anything from 22-AA or like.. KTs-AKs. thats a pretty big range. they are all idiots and clueless about how to play poker, and until they show you otherwise, treat them as such. in a 55+ that cold call scares me a bit, but in a 10, im still autoshoving. the shorter stack could be shoving a big range as well trying to get it heads up with an extra 195 dead in there, or maybe he thinks he can even drag the pot without a showdown. all of these factors make QQ an easy push in my book. holla
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#16
08-26-2005, 04:55 PM
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Re: Can I fold at the 11s?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I was also pleased that, after I folded incorrectly, the short stack sucked out and made a set on the flop, which would have beaten me, had I stayed in... [/ QUOTE ] Bzzzzzzzt! Wrong Answer! [/ QUOTE ] Naw, I know that. I made the wrong play and I'm not letting myself off the hook. But can't I at least allow the bad beat I didn't take ease the pain a bit? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] By the way--if I do play here, I push, right? What If I know that one, but not both, of the early callers will overcall if I just call? Do I want a couple of overcards against me, or do I want to isolate the guy who probably has the smaller pair? [/ QUOTE ] I would push, and it isn't because I am choosing who I want against me as much as I am not gonna fold (assuming I just called - the pot is huge now) if a K hits the board and now I have to play a guessing game for the side pot. I don't mind running AK v. QQ v. 77 in this spot, and I *really* don't mind at all if AK folds! If AK did fold here it would be even better for you.
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