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08-26-2005, 01:20 PM
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Re: Interesting bubble decision OR Evelyn Ng nude pics inside!
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[ QUOTE ] I call here and put in my last 200 if they make me. Someone has to try to knock the guy out. Lori [/ QUOTE ] *nod* Calling is goot here, IMO. Frankly, you can do just about anything probably and it's fine. Yugoslav [/ QUOTE ] true, but I actually want SB in the hand, calling makes it more likely. I want to "collude" in this situation. 
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08-26-2005, 01:44 PM
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Re: Interesting bubble decision OR Evelyn Ng nude pics inside!
Ack, no, why push? If a big stack calls you, the BB folds happily and hopes to limp into 3rd. Otherwise he calls you and you race for 3rd, after which you're complete crippled.
One of the big stacks is going to put him all in, maybe both. Let them kill him and put you in 3rd. If the BB wins the race, oh well, you've at least got enough chips that your race will leave you with meaningful chips if you win it.
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08-26-2005, 01:47 PM
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Ack, no, why push? If a big stack calls you, the BB folds happily and hopes to limp into 3rd. [/ QUOTE ] BB is all in (see below) Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter Hero (t500) Button (t4270) SB (t3070) BB (t160)
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#24
08-26-2005, 02:01 PM
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Re: Interesting bubble decision OR Evelyn Ng nude pics inside!
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[ QUOTE ] Ack, no, why push? If a big stack calls you, the BB folds happily and hopes to limp into 3rd. [/ QUOTE ] BB is all in (see below) Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter Hero (t500) Button (t4270) SB (t3070) BB (t160) [/ QUOTE ] Ah, my misundestanding, I though that was his post BB amount left.
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#25
08-26-2005, 02:14 PM
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Re: Interesting bubble decision OR Evelyn Ng nude pics inside!
There was a good discussion about a similar situation earlier this week I think. (the difference being the short stack had a full BB and the SB would have to call 150, not 10. The post started with a poll. The stack sizes were a little different, but (I think) the general consensus evolved from folding the hand to calling. The reason being is that you are making sure that someone is playing against the small stack. Here, it's likely that the SB will come along too, and maybe even the button. In addition, it's possible that one of the large stacks pushes all in, which is OK, because he may very well have a strong hand, presumably stronger than the small stack's blind hand. If the OP had more chips, I'd more inclined to fold my way into the money, but here, it's too important that you and/or the others get him out. You don't any chance of the small stack doubling up and the two of you being perilously close in stack sizes...
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08-26-2005, 02:15 PM
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In order of attractiveness: 1) Fold 2) Call 3) Push [/ QUOTE ] This is exactly what I thought too. How is this mandatory push? If the play is decent I would expect button and sb to just call, check down and take out the small stack. Hmmmm, must be missing something.
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#27
08-26-2005, 02:57 PM
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I call here and put in my last 200 if they make me. Someone has to try to knock the guy out. Lori [/ QUOTE ] A call here is horrible for 2 reasons. 1. If either of the big stacks call with you it generates a T280 side pot that is worthwhile for them to bet the flop risking only T200 more to chase you out if they are any good at all. Only a horrible big stack will check this down all the way. 2. If you lose by having to fold the flop or a checkdown loses to bb, you are all-in big blind next hand instead of having 4 more hands to fold and still luck into the money. You have to push or fold this, my preference is to push if I don't read either of the big stacks as willing to take chances.
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#28
08-26-2005, 03:27 PM
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Re: Interesting bubble decision OR Evelyn Ng nude pics inside!
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[ QUOTE ] I call here and put in my last 200 if they make me. Someone has to try to knock the guy out. Lori [/ QUOTE ] A call here is horrible for 2 reasons. 1. If either of the big stacks call with you it generates a T280 side pot that is worthwhile for them to bet the flop risking only T200 more to chase you out if they are any good at all. Only a horrible big stack will check this down all the way. 2. If you lose by having to fold the flop or a checkdown loses to bb, you are all-in big blind next hand instead of having 4 more hands to fold and still luck into the money. You have to push or fold this, my preference is to push if I don't read either of the big stacks as willing to take chances. [/ QUOTE ] no no no no...you're missing the point. where you been anyway? You come back after 10 mos to argue THIS point?! Youre not folding this ever...youll check down if allowed and call if bet into. By calling you are giving incentive to other 2 live stacks calling, which is good. Basic.
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