Good Fold?

[Cancuk]

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the cap doesn't have value in and of itself, but may buy you a free turn as you're last to act. if your opponents tend to check to the aggressor it's a fine play.

on river i make crying call. it's $1-2, enuf people are idiots to make this call right 1 out of 10 times.

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This cap is costing you to much for a free card.

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nah. with two other players in the hand every bet on the flop only costs you a teeny weeny bit of expectation as you'll win this thing almost 1/3 of the time (i realize not quite this high cause of boats, redraws to higher flushes).

but every flop bet costs you only pennies in expectation. so your price to try and get a free turn is extremely minimal.

also, from a metagame stance it's probably a good thing for your opponents to know you'll cap on draws.

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Metagame stance is fine, but i still feel that capping this flop is complete spewage, especially w/ BB (i think its BB, the hand isn't infront of me) coming along.

[whodaman]

i like the way you played every street except i would call the river at 1/2. Maybe BB capped the river with 56 for the straight, or maybe he just had trip 4's.
With SB at 5 agg factor, you cant lay down a flush to him.

[wonkadaddy]

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Metagame stance is fine, but i still feel that capping this flop is complete spewage, especially w/ BB (i think its BB, the hand isn't infront of me) coming along.

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?? it's not even close to spewage. you're making a fundamental thinking error, but i'm not sure which one.

1.you realize that it can be advantageous to pump up pots while still on a draw, right? like if you had the nutflush draw and there were 5 other people in the pot that aren't folding. you could expect to win about 1/3 of the time so you're essentially winning 1/3 of 6 bets, or 2 bets for every 1 bet you make. woohoo!

in this case say you can expect to win only 25% of the time (it's probably higher). your last bet gets called by 2 people so you can expect to win .25 of the 3 bets or .75 bets. so your 1 bet earns .75 bets back. that means it cost you 1/4 of a small bet in expectation to try to get a free turn card (2 small bets). this is a little bit simplified, and i don't think i've explained it very well, but there it is. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Metagame stance is fine, but i still feel that capping this flop is complete spewage, especially w/ BB (i think its BB, the hand isn't infront of me) coming along.

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?? it's not even close to spewage. you're making a fundamental thinking error, but i'm not sure which one.

1.you realize that it can be advantageous to pump up pots while still on a draw, right? like if you had the nutflush draw and there were 5 other people in the pot that aren't folding. you could expect to win about 1/3 of the time so you're essentially winning 1/3 of 6 bets, or 2 bets for every 1 bet you make. woohoo!

in this case say you can expect to win only 25% of the time (it's probably higher). your last bet gets called by 2 people so you can expect to win .25 of the 3 bets or .75 bets. so your 1 bet earns .75 bets back. that means it cost you 1/4 of a small bet in expectation to try to get a free turn card (2 small bets). this is a little bit simplified, and i don't think i've explained it very well, but there it is. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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yes i realize that it can be advantageous to ram & jam on the flop, although there isn't enough callers and his draw isn't strong enough link

Also, obviously I know about raising for a free card, but i've never really considered capping w/ two opp's for a free card. Although i recognize that it can be advantageous in some situations, I really don't think this is the case, especially w/ BB coming along.

cheers

[sweetjazz]

On this flop, hero has no reason to believe his overcards aren't good as well. Easy cap.