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Old 08-25-2005, 06:26 PM
giant sand giant sand is offline
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Default AQs - folding on the turn

I think I should have folded on the turn here. All advice gratefully received.

W Hill $3 - $6 5 players, no reads
<font color="red">Hero </font> in CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

MP1 folds, <font color="red"> Villain </font> calls, <font color="red"> Hero </font> raises. three folds to villain, who calls.

<font color="blue">Flop</font> (5.5sb) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Villain checks</font>, <font color="red">Hero bets, </font>, <font color="red">Villain </font> calls

<font color="blue">Turn</font> (7.5sb) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Villain</font> checks, <font color="red"> Hero </font> bets, <font color="red">Villain </font> raises, hero?
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: AQs - folding on the turn

WIthout a prior read that a player would make a strange play in semi-bluffing on an oesd, I would probablly fold.

The pots not very big, and you don't want to spend 2 BB to see a better hand in a small pot.
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:24 PM
Cancuk Cancuk is offline
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Default Re: AQs - folding on the turn

i'd fold w/out any prior reads.

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: AQs - folding on the turn

live game? I fold, online, i call.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: AQs - folding on the turn

pretty standard fold w/o reads
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: AQs - folding on the turn

call. There;s a good enough chance he's semibluffing with a flush draw, oesd, or lower pair, plus you have good enough odds to peel one to try to improve
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:50 AM
whodaman whodaman is offline
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Default Re: AQs - folding on the turn

why do you think he is getting odds to peel?
its 3.75BB before the turn so he is getting 6.75-1.... i only count 5 outs, if there all clean, which i wouldn't count on
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: AQs - folding on the turn

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why do you think he is getting odds to peel?
its 3.75BB before the turn so he is getting 6.75-1.... i only count 5 outs, if there all clean, which i wouldn't count on

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Thought there was 7.5 BB on the turn, but he was keeping everything in SB units, so I misread it. I still don't think it's a clear fold, as you see so much turn check-raise semi-bluffing/bluffing insanity, at least at Party. But this is Crypologic, so maybe it's a good fold given the games are a little tamer.
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