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Old 08-25-2005, 11:22 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Bet-call, bet-3bet?

Villain is a semi-tag who gets out of line(or tilts) quite often. Example: He had AsKs in this post. Stats: 21/13/2.3 over 8k hands

Party Poker Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Jeff W is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Jeff W calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Jeff W bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Jeff W calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Jeff W bets</font>.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

If you are betting that turn, why didn't you 3 bet the flop?

EDIT: Oh, I see what you were thinking.... It's interesing.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

I'd want to bet/3-bet given his tilty nature.

Plus your flop play sets up the turn bet/3-bet no?
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

I like this line a lot.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

This is a great line and a good spot for it.

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

agree. given his tendancies I love a 3-bet here
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:06 AM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

[ QUOTE ]
I'd want to bet/3-bet given his tilty nature.

Plus your flop play sets up the turn bet/3-bet no?

[/ QUOTE ]

Perhaps I wasn't clear. My question is:

Which is better of these two options:

1) Bet-3bet flop.
2) Bet-call flop, Bet-3bet turn.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'd want to bet/3-bet given his tilty nature.

Plus your flop play sets up the turn bet/3-bet no?

[/ QUOTE ]

Perhaps I wasn't clear. My question is:

Which is better of these two options:

1) Bet-3bet flop.
2) Bet-call flop, Bet-3bet turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh in that case the second line is much sexier.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:14 AM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

2), though it loses value ~in proportion to your opponent's respect for your play. This line works because you're mimicking a weak hand or bluff and your opponent buys into it a large % of the time.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: Bet-call, bet-3bet?

well played donk bet.


This will need to be a very player specific line, but I agree with others that this looks great given your read.

He might slow down if you 3-bet the flop and much more likely to slowdown if you c/r the turn.
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