Wait for turn to protect this hand?

IGMorton · #1 08-25-2005, 12:01 PM

Was it correct to wait till the turn for a chance to raise and protect this hand? All the other players were goofballs. I had to see showdown despite the scary turn card.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, Hero raises, CO (poster) calls, Button 3-bets, SB caps, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (20 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

jba · #2 08-25-2005, 12:11 PM

perfect.

helpmeout · #3 08-25-2005, 12:11 PM

No

But feel free to give players behind you with a gutshot the chance to see the turn for 1 bet.

SB if he has some idea probably wont bet AK AQ on the turn unimproved and if he has you beat he will 3bet your raise.

Just raise the flop who knows the 2 behind you might fold their gutshot draws or their one overcard. You also wanna see how serious SB is about his hand not wait for the turn to findout he has a set or a higher PP. Who knows one of the chimps might have you beat and again paying 3bets on the turn with a low overpair on a pretty scary board isnt too fun.

Entity · #4 08-25-2005, 12:34 PM

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No

But feel free to give players behind you with a gutshot the chance to see the turn for 1 bet.

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How exactly are we folding a gutshot? The pot is 22SB when it gets to us.

Rob

IGMorton · #5 08-25-2005, 12:39 PM

If i raised the flop, the CO and button are getting 22:2 to call. I couldn't protect my hand vs a 10.5:1 gutshot it seemed, especially considering the calling stations at 3/6.

Do i still bet the turn? anyone with any sort of draw (even just 2 overcards has big implied odds here).

helpmeout · #6 08-25-2005, 12:43 PM

Charging them 2 bets is better than charging them 1. 3 is even better if SB 3bets. Never said they will fold.

Too many scare cards on the turn as well get your money in now.

jba · #7 08-25-2005, 01:25 PM

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Do i still bet the turn? anyone with any sort of draw (even just 2 overcards has big implied odds here).

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yes you have to bet the turn.

I think the overcards have reverse implied odds here, they very well could be beat when they catch either through the draws or reverse domination.

cmwck · #8 08-25-2005, 01:35 PM

Looks good, and this hand is fairly easy to play once a blank comes on the turn, but how do you play it if the turn is an A or K? Say and ace falls and SB bets. I would be inclined to call down probably, but what's the play if the A falls and its checked to you?

goofball · #9 08-25-2005, 02:56 PM

Pot is huge, protect it now.

dhaimon · #10 08-25-2005, 08:52 PM

no. there are so many overcards that beat you that you probably want to protect the hand right away. also it's a huge pot and you want the money to go in when you are ahead.