Follow up on this turn?

cmwck · #1 08-24-2005, 06:22 PM

BB is new to the table, and it looks like MP is shaping up to be extremely loose: 85% vpip after 17 hands

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, MP calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets....?

I bet because a typical player (and MP esp.) would call the flop with an overcard or two or a flush draw, and the turn card is probably no help to them.

And, just for fun, what's the maximum number of overcards (and their rank) that have to appear on the flop in this situation before you won't bet the flop anymore?

cmwck · #2 08-24-2005, 09:00 PM

I hate to do this, but wow, only 7 views?

baronzeus · #3 08-24-2005, 09:01 PM

yes

Rubeskies · #4 08-24-2005, 09:02 PM

Easy Turn Bet

I also, bet any flop and any turn card.

cmwck · #5 08-24-2005, 09:18 PM

Second question: What % of the time do you need to have the best hand on the flop to make betting correct? is it 1/3?

Rubeskies · #6 08-24-2005, 09:22 PM

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Second question: What % of the time do you need to have the best hand on the flop to make betting correct? is it 1/3?

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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking but against almost any opponent(s) you'll ever play against in this game, betting the flop after raising preflop 3-way or HU is pretty much almost always going to be correct.

EDIT: Unless you can get in a check/raise with a big hand etc.

cmwck · #7 08-24-2005, 09:29 PM

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Second question: What % of the time do you need to have the best hand on the flop to make betting correct? is it 1/3?

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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking but against almost any opponent(s) you'll ever play against in this game, betting the flop after raising preflop 3-way or HU is pretty much almost always going to be correct.

EDIT: Unless you can get in a check/raise with a big hand etc.

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I'm just wondering what makes it correct to bet here 95% of the time, and what makes it incorrect to bet that 5% of the time (or whatever the numbers are). Perhaps the answer is in the shorthanded section of HPFAP, I haven't read that in a while and probably should.