55 gutshot OOP

kurosh · #1 08-24-2005, 10:41 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

BB ($553.20)
Hero ($362.90)
MP ($366)
Button ($413.70)
SB ($400.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, Button calls $14, 2 folds.

Flop: ($34) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $30, Button raises to $60, Hero raises to $150 planning to fold to a reraise and not being happy if he calls but probably pushing any turn

Villain is TAG and we haven't tangled before. I've been pretty tight so far.

TheWorstPlayer · #2 08-24-2005, 12:52 PM

If he calls, I would c/f unimproved.

Allinlife · #3 08-24-2005, 02:09 PM

chip spew

Pulp · #4 08-24-2005, 02:44 PM

Generally, IMO, 55 is not a hand you want to raise with UTG. The goal of these small pocket pairs is to flop a set in a raised pot and win a big one. The play on the flop is completely judgemental. Would you re-raise him here if you had AA? Your reraise may push him out... but it might not. You should ask youself there questions before you reraise: Has he made this play before? Was he caught bluffing? What are his preflop standards for a raise? I think that your best play would just be to play it slower before the flop and not get yourself into a tangle.

TheWorstPlayer · #5 08-24-2005, 02:52 PM

Raising 55 UTG 5-handed is completely standard. It is fine to limp it, too, and could be better under certain table conditions (looseness, preflop aggression with re-raises) but raising it is definitely not bad here. Of course the outrageous flop play could be highly suspect, but it is really opponent dependent and table image dependent. Very hard to say from looking at just one HH in isolation.

kurosh · #6 08-24-2005, 02:56 PM

I would play AA in the same way. He pushed and I folded.

I'm trying to get a strategy down to make it hard to read my hands. I randomly raise/open-raise any PP and suited connectors in various positions. I limp with them too but I need to mix up my play. I don't think open-raising this is bad, especially in 6-max???

I don't think there's any merit in calling. Stacks aren't deep enough, right? Either fold or try and make a play for it based on my read? And yeah, probably c/f turn if he calls.

TheWorstPlayer · #7 08-24-2005, 02:59 PM

Limp/call is fine with 100bb stacks. In general, without a read, I wouldn't 3-bet over a min-raise unless you think there's a good chance of having set over set. And pushing the turn here would definitely be spewing if he called your 3-bet on the flop. It would just mean that he (wisely) decided not to blow you off your hand on the flop.

kurosh · #8 08-24-2005, 03:22 PM

You wouldn't 3-bet in this hand or in any hand unless you think it's set over set?

TheWorstPlayer · #9 08-24-2005, 03:39 PM

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You wouldn't 3-bet in this hand or in any hand unless you think it's set over set?

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Pretty much any hand over a min-raise unless I think it is set over set. I just think a flop min-raise against a preflop raiser is very very often a set. And if it isn't a set, then it is often one pair putting you on missed overcards. In neither case do you want to 3-bet.

Allinlife · #10 08-24-2005, 05:32 PM

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I would play AA in the same way.

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I hope not.

anyways, I think you can pick much better spots to 'mix it up' than situations like this where you get minraised on relatively dry flop with a hand that is far likely to be behind with no redraws oop.