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Old 08-23-2005, 02:01 PM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default 22 hand from stars rebuy

I posted this in the LL thread and got a couple responses. I thought this was a pretty standard short stack play, but the responses in the LL thread said otherwise...
antes are 100 and the short stack has probably been at the table for an orbit and hasn't played a hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t25412)
CO (t19276)
Hero (t14713)
SB (t27850)
BB (t45587)
UTG (t55455)
UTG+1 (t32689)
MP1 (t5428)
MP2 (t11890)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, 2.
2 folds, MP1 raises to t5328, 3 folds, Hero raises to t14613,
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:27 PM
Lloyd Lloyd is offline
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Default Re: 22 hand from stars rebuy

Antes? How did MP1 become a short stack? Was he blinded off or did he lose a hand that crippled him?
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:40 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: 22 hand from stars rebuy

i would fold if i were actually in that spot, but i'm not sure the fold would be correct. there's 3900 in dead money, so if you get heads up as a coinflip, that's pretty big for you. if you're in against a pair, that's bad but not horrible. and the odds that either blind has a pair big enough to call you are pretty low. still, i don't think it's worth the risk, and it's gonna kill your FE.

this is related to the debate A_PLUS and i were having here
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:45 PM
People_Mover People_Mover is offline
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Default Re: 22 hand from stars rebuy

I'm mucking it too. Against another pair, your odds are real crappy. If you think you're racing, then cool, but I'd rather save 6K for a better hand. You lose this hand and the blinds will call your small push with anything.. Hopefully it worked out
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:10 PM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default Re: 22 hand from stars rebuy

1 time bump
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:42 PM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default Re: 22 hand from stars rebuy

You are on the button, so you will have more oppurtunities to open push, which makes me more inclined to fold. If you call and lose you have lost just about all your FE for future pushes. So yeah, I fold.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:07 PM
Dave D Dave D is offline
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Default Re: 22 hand from stars rebuy

[ QUOTE ]
I posted this in the LL thread and got a couple responses. I thought this was a pretty standard short stack play, but the responses in the LL thread said otherwise...
antes are 100 and the short stack has probably been at the table for an orbit and hasn't played a hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t25412)
CO (t19276)
Hero (t14713)
SB (t27850)
BB (t45587)
UTG (t55455)
UTG+1 (t32689)
MP1 (t5428)
MP2 (t11890)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, 2.
2 folds, MP1 raises to t5328, 3 folds, Hero raises to t14613,

[/ QUOTE ]

I really think you can fold here. You just paid a blind and have 7 BBs, which is still a small stack but you do have some time. You're basically hoping for a coinflip at best, and any PP has you destroyed. If you were first in sure, easy push but there's no reason to call here as I've always understood part of the point of pushing with these hands is the fold equity. Here you obviously have none.

Incidently, how far are you from the money?
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