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Old 08-23-2005, 03:13 PM
dimes dimes is offline
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Default Yet another AK pre-flop situation

$100+$10 live tourney

Four hands into the start of the tourney.
Blinds are 25/25
Everyone has ~5000 chips

Everyone folds to Hero in Mid position. Hero raises to 100.

Player to left of Hero calls. (This player is supper aggressive. Played with before. No info yet on table expect for this player).

Everyone else folds to SB. SB raises to 1000 chips.
BB folds.

Hero???

Should this be a push right here??

Hero calls
Player left of Hero calls

Flop Qs 6h Ts

SB bets 500

Hero???
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Yet another AK pre-flop situation

4 hands into a $100 live tournament, I reraise allin preflop.

The flop is bad for you. You have outs, a jack is great and an ace or king may put you ahead. If you flat call, there is another player who may raise the microbet. I think I fold here. Both of your opponents are probably ahead of you. What hand could they have that doesn't have a pp, a Q or a T? Your opponents seem loose, so I don't think it is a good idea to try to blow them both away with a push.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Yet another AK pre-flop situation

Talk about a hand that is my worst nightmare come true. I hate these situations. All in is a good choice because if he has middle or bottom pair theres a good chance he'll fold, but do you really want to be out of the tourney immediately>?
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:40 PM
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you have no read on the raiser, you have only 100 chips invested, raiser is representing a made hand. if you call and he has aces or kings you are huge dog, and if he has qq, jj, or other pairs you are still an underdog. why call? what do you think the raiser has? why risk 20% of your stack in the very beginning with so little information and a drawing hand?
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Yet another AK pre-flop situation

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you have no read on the raiser, you have only 100 chips invested, raiser is representing a made hand. if you call and he has aces or kings you are huge dog, and if he has qq, jj, or other pairs you are still an underdog. why call? what do you think the raiser has? why risk 20% of your stack in the very beginning with so little information and a drawing hand?

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AGREED. I keep thinking about it. There are going to be so many more hands.. Is it worth all in to make a little bit?
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:44 PM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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Default Re: Yet another AK pre-flop situation

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you have no read on the raiser, you have only 100 chips invested, raiser is representing a made hand. if you call and he has aces or kings you are huge dog, and if he has qq, jj, or other pairs you are still an underdog. why call? what do you think the raiser has? why risk 20% of your stack in the very beginning with so little information and a drawing hand?

[/ QUOTE ]AK is not a drawing hand
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:48 PM
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you have no read on the raiser, you have only 100 chips invested, raiser is representing a made hand. if you call and he has aces or kings you are huge dog, and if he has qq, jj, or other pairs you are still an underdog. why call? what do you think the raiser has? why risk 20% of your stack in the very beginning with so little information and a drawing hand?

[/ QUOTE ]AK is not a drawing hand

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It is against a pair, which he was implying.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:50 PM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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you have no read on the raiser, you have only 100 chips invested, raiser is representing a made hand. if you call and he has aces or kings you are huge dog, and if he has qq, jj, or other pairs you are still an underdog. why call? what do you think the raiser has? why risk 20% of your stack in the very beginning with so little information and a drawing hand?

[/ QUOTE ]AK is not a drawing hand

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It is against a pair, which he was implying.

[/ QUOTE ]AK is a strong hand, maybe a monster. I'm not folding AK preflop to a overbet. I doubt he has aces or kings. I would push preflop or the flop
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Yet another AK pre-flop situation

From here I call because you're getting a little over 5-1. See what the turn brings.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:52 PM
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From here I call because you're getting a little over 5-1. See what the turn brings.

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me too...nice structure for a $100, btw. Assuming at least 15 min rounds.
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