10/20 hand , reality check ...

[vapourtrail]

2 limpers , I am in the BB with

4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check.

Flop is A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Pot is 60)

I check.
EP minbets 20.
LP folds.
I raise to 80.
EP calls.

Turn is J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot is 220)
I bet 160.
EP calls.

River is 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot is 540)
I bet 300.
EP raises all-in for 1200. (pot is 2040)
I call for 900 more.

Opponent is PF 36 / 13. River Aggresion factor is 6.

I am most intersted on the river. I have been arguing with a friend whether or not check is actually better to get the most value from second best hands. If I am not checking, what is a good amount to bet the river?

[VanVeen]

"I have been arguing with a friend whether or not check is actually better to get the most value from second best hands."

It isn't even close. BET. FWIW, you cannot draw reliable conclusions about a player's "aggression" from the PT aggression factor stat. It is really quite useless, esp. for river play. Get reads.

[vapourtrail]

: FWIW, you cannot draw reliable conclusions about a player's "aggression" from the PT aggression factor stat. It is really quite useless, esp. for river play. Get reads.

Yeah, I agree. Just wanted to throw out as much information as possible to discuss .....

[AZK]

You guys need to coordinate better...

deja vu

[n1bd]

Haha, this is very funny.

You are right, vapourtrail, I am wrong; the light of day makes everything better. Easy river bet. So much more likely he has an ace that pays you off (like AQ/AK) than weird hands that you can extract more from or save bets with (65, A7, flush). I guess the only question is the size of the bet, then, and whether to fold to a raise.

[fsuplayer]

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You guys need to coordinate better...

deja vu

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ownage.