Chasing my set (implied odds question)

[magates]

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On the flop you're getting 18:1, safe, drawing to a 2-outer (you have no backdoor draws). You can't continue just to see the turn (2/47 = 22:1, about). If you count going all the way to the river, let's assume that the betting pattern will be the same, and let's say you'll lose one more opponent; so, when it gets to you the pot'll be 12.5 BB, so you'll be spending 1.5 bets to win 12, or 8:1, and your pot odds are 2/47 + 2/46 = ~10:1. Am I right so far?

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From the flop to the river it's (1/1-(45/47)(44/46))-1 = 10.9:1

[Eeegah]

I think I've been misreading ratio notation all this time; I've always thought it to be equivalent to a fraction, as in (outs)possibilities), but I guess it's actually different. Anyone know how this difference evolved?

Moreover, if a coinflip is 1:1, then what's something that's guaranteed to win, 1:0?

To be honest, I really don't like ratio notation anyway, as it's confusing to convert it to and from a figure that you can actually do math with, like fractions or percentages. I think I need to start a campaign or write my Representative or something.

[bozlax]

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From the flop to the river it's (1/1-(45/47)(44/46))-1 = 10.9:1

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You're right, it's closer to 11:1. Your intended formula and mine are just different ways of arriving at the same number. That said, I used the word "intended" because (1/1-x)-1=-x. You need a few more parentheses.

[bozlax]

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Hero is dealt KK UTG.
Hero raises, folded to Niners Jersey (MP) who calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Qxx rainbow flop. Hero bets, Niners Jersey raises, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn pairs the board and improves Hero to a boat.

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That's one magical turn card.

[Harv72b]

Did I mention that I suck at math? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Either way, I like the flop call & would like it all the way down to 14:1.

[magates]

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You're right, it's closer to 11:1. Your intended formula and mine are just different ways of arriving at the same number. That said, I used the word "intended" because (1/1-x)-1=-x. You need a few more parentheses.

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Oops. Yeah, I should be more careful. That said, your formula for calculating the odds of making a draw with two cards to come is wrong and won't arrive at the same number. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[SlantNGo]

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Hero is dealt KK UTG.
Hero raises, folded to Niners Jersey (MP) who calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Qxx rainbow flop. Hero bets, Niners Jersey raises, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn pairs the board and improves Hero to a boat.

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That's one magical turn card.

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Whoops! KQx flop.

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I'm sure it doesn't much matter to harv, but it's important that this doesn't get confusing for people newer to the game.

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Good looking out for us. Great basic explanation on odds--I'm getting to that part in TOP now.