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Old 08-22-2005, 10:20 PM
BoxTree BoxTree is offline
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Default HU: QT on AQQ Board

Commerce, 200 NL (Blinds: 3,5; 9-handed)

Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button.

Hero opens to $25. SB folds. BB calls.

Preflop Stacks:
Hero: ~$800
BB: ~$500

Flop (2 players, $50): Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB calls.

Turn (2 players, $130): 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB checks, Hero bets $80, BB min-check-raises to $160.

Okay, so what's going on here?

BB is a tight, mostly straightforward player. BB does all sorts of facial spasming before check-raising the turn. So I'm sure he has a monster.

What sort of monster? In order of current strength (but not necessarily likelihood):
AA
AQ
77
QK
QJs

I doubt he has 77. He may think I was making some sort of blind-steal preflop, but he's not going to call me all the way down with a pair of sevens on an AQQ board. So rule that out. He'd call the flop with QJs, KQo, AA, and AQ.

Of those hands, I'm only drawing live against KQ and QJ (okay, I have one out against AA). Against those two hands, I have three outs to the winner (the tens) and six outs to a chop (the aces and sevens).

He doesn't have AK, if you're wondering. He wouldn't min-check-raise the turn with TPTK on this board.

So, I figure I need to see the river to try to improve.

I call and the river is the miracle 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Ha ha.

He pushes.

Do I call the additional ~$275 (pot is ~$725 after he pushes)?
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:48 PM
Caballa Caballa is offline
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Default Re: HU: QT on AQQ Board

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Do I call the additional ~$275 (pot is ~$725 after he pushes)?

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So you call the turn to see if you improve on the river, improve, then wonder whether you should call when getting a little under 3 to 1 on your full house?
What?
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: HU: QT on AQQ Board

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Do I call the additional ~$275 (pot is ~$725 after he pushes)?

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So you call the turn to see if you improve on the river, improve, then wonder whether you should call when getting a little under 3 to 1 on your full house?
What?

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Read the post, he didn't improve.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:57 PM
baumer baumer is offline
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Default Re: HU: QT on AQQ Board

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Do I call the additional ~$275 (pot is ~$725 after he pushes)?

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So you call the turn to see if you improve on the river, improve, then wonder whether you should call when getting a little under 3 to 1 on your full house?
What?

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What?

If you respect his play you fold.

Most of the time at these $100 or $200 buy-in tables you will meet some awful players that would do this with AK but there isn't much else you are beating.



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Old 08-22-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: HU: QT on AQQ Board

disregard everything I said. didn' realize it was headsup.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: HU: QT on AQQ Board

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Do I call the additional ~$275 (pot is ~$725 after he pushes)?

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So you call the turn to see if you improve on the river, improve, then wonder whether you should call when getting a little under 3 to 1 on your full house?
What?

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Read the post, he didn't improve.

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Misread, sorry.

Assuming that you need to hit your three outer to win, I don't think there's enough money in the pot on the turn nor money left in BB's stack to justify calling the checkraise.
That makes the turn a fold, but only if you're certain of your read.
Given your read, I don't see how you can call the river either.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:29 AM
xcrack999 xcrack999 is offline
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Default Re: HU: QT on AQQ Board

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What sort of monster? In order of current strength (but not necessarily likelihood):
AA
AQ
77
QK
QJs

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If that's all he can have, I don't think there's anything else to do but to fold.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: HU: QT on AQQ Board

If you think you're ahead, figure out how to get it all in. If you think you're not ahead, then fold the turn. Personally, I'm trying to get all in here, but I don't know this guy. Maybe he's a rock.
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