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Old 08-21-2005, 11:17 AM
iceman5 iceman5 is offline
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Default LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

I play pretty TAG. My stats are something like 16 / 4.5 / 4.0...but I do try to mix it up now and then.

$5/$10 NL

I open raise to $40 with 6h 5h in MP. The button and BB both call. I just started playing at FTP so I have no reads. We all have about $1000.

The pot is $125 and the flop comes T43 rainbow. The BB leads out for $120 and I push.

This is a very strange all in on my part. There are no believable draws. He has to be thinking "WTF? I have no idea what the hell that all in means. I cant call that without a read".

I think my folding equity is very high. Ive played like 2 hands out of the 30 since Ive been at the table.

Thoughts?
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

If you are raising 65s preflop then I think you should go ahead and raise the flop when you pick up the straight draw.

Would be helpful if you had an idea of what this guy will pot lead a small rainbow flop with and how often he calls raises PF (can he likely have a ten?).
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:35 AM
tradingman123 tradingman123 is offline
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Default Re: LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

iceman, couldn't you have accomplished the same with a smaller raise? like to 1.5x to 2x pot?
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

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I play pretty TAG. My stats are something like 16 / 4.5 / 4.0

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Jesus Christ...
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The pot is $125 and the flop comes T43 rainbow. The BB leads out for $120 and I push.


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I think that set/2pair wont fold here and small pair (or 10) will often fold after smaller raise anyway.

Best wishes
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:30 PM
Jonny Jonny is offline
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Default Re: LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

why not raise to 300 instead, that looks more like a real hand. Then check behind on the turn if you miss.
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:33 PM
iceman5 iceman5 is offline
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Default Re: LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

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I play pretty TAG. My stats are something like 16 / 4.5 / 4.0

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Jesus Christ...
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The pot is $125 and the flop comes T43 rainbow. The BB leads out for $120 and I push.


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I think that set/2pair wont fold here and small pair (or 10) will often fold after smaller raise anyway.

Best wishes

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Yes, 16% VIP. I said I was tight. Most of the regular winners in my games have VIPs under 20.

You dont think he has T4, T3, or 43 do you? Of course a set isnt folding. Calling that all in with a T is pretty bad in my opinion. Besides, most people dont lead a full pot sized bet into the raiser with any of those hands.

Dont you think someone as tight as me can get away with things like this more often since I almost always have a big hand when I put big money in the pot?
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

from what i've seen at FTP this is getting called by QT+ all day
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: LAG hand from TAG player.....good or bad?

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You dont think he has T4, T3, or 43 do you? Of course a set isnt folding. Calling that all in with a T is pretty bad in my opinion.


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I dont think he has 2pair.
I mean that you are not gaining FE by you huge raise comparing to smaller raise and I cant see what else you can gain by this.

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Besides, most people dont lead a full pot sized bet into the raiser with any of those hands.


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Many people have learnt to lead into preflop raiser with sets.

Best wishes
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:41 PM
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FTP

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I am a newbie. What does FTP stands for ?
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:43 PM
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