10-20 NL at Bellagio

[Big]

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...what's my move?

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You bet 300, then 600; it seems that betting 900 or 1200 would be consistent.

[mgsimpleton]

by this is the worst card for you you clearly mean this is the best card for you, right? push.

[kagame]

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[John Ho]

I think what he might have meant is that in this particular hand it's likely either the villain has a monster so big there is no way he is not going all in on the river or he blanked off and won't call much of anything. There is a smaller chance he has a possible payoff hand like KQ and the river makes it less likely Hero has an ace.

So yeah either way ahead or way behind. There is no way to manipulate the action one way or another...can't get a better hand to fold and can't get a worse one to call most of the time. You guys calling him a moron understand this concept right?

And so if this is your read then value betting on the river is silly since most of the time if you are played with you are beat. And checking may induce a bluff - if he bets something small on a post oak then it's an easy call. Not as simple as "I have a straight, he never raised me, and I'm pushing."

[savman]

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all in and i dont think its close

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[jayheaps]

I agre you can't fold here based on how you played the hand. the question is the range of hands the villians bets vs. what he calls. knowing nothing else, I push, but if he is hyperaggressive, i might check-call

[riverboatking]

if villian had two pair or a set he would have let you know on the turn.
his most likely hand is AK so push the river.

[Diplomat]

I find it somewhat suprizing that no one has considered checking.

-Diplomat

[riverboatking]

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I find it somewhat suprizing that no one has considered checking.



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it is very unlikely that villian will value bet/bluff this river more often then he will call a push with a legitimate hand.

checking in this spot is a good play when you know your opponent well and he is aggressive and will try and bluff scary rivers.
however vs. an unknown oppoenent pushing the river is a much more profitable play in the long run.

[Diplomat]

Pushing the river, to be called by what?

-Diplomat