a hand vs a 2+2er

xCEO · #1 08-18-2005, 12:05 PM

2+2er don't like to lose aces (I can understand) and tells me that. Also, now he thinks I'm a fish (not in those words).. why??

the pfr was to isolate the very bad UTG player
Should I have raised the turn? or the flop?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

RunDownHouse · #2 08-18-2005, 12:14 PM

Raise flop. Given that you didn't, raise turn. Given that you didn't, OK going for the overcall, I guess.

spydog · #3 08-18-2005, 12:18 PM

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Raise flop. Given that you didn't, raise turn. Given that you didn't, OK going for the overcall, I guess.

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JrJordan · #4 08-18-2005, 12:30 PM

HU, I'd probably just call down vs. the 2+2 so he can keep bluffing his overs. With the bad UTG though, he's giving you a nice overlay to raise this turn. SB will be hardpressed to 3-bet on this scary board, so even an overpair type hand will likely just call.

The river overcall is interesting here. How often is UTG betting here with a Q, vs. a lower straight or two pair type hand? If his hand range is wide, then I'd raise to ensure I get 2BB in here, since there's no guarantee that the 2+2er is overcalling here. If he's only betting here with straight+, then the overcall is good to at least chop 2+2er's overcalling 1BB.

xCEO · #5 08-18-2005, 01:06 PM

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HU, I'd probably just call down vs. the 2+2 so he can keep bluffing his overs. With the bad UTG though, he's giving you a nice overlay to raise this turn. SB will be hardpressed to 3-bet on this scary board, so even an overpair type hand will likely just call.

The river overcall is interesting here. How often is UTG betting here with a Q, vs. a lower straight or two pair type hand? If his hand range is wide, then I'd raise to ensure I get 2BB in here, since there's no guarantee that the 2+2er is overcalling here. If he's only betting here with straight+, then the overcall is good to at least chop 2+2er's overcalling 1BB.

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While I was playing the hand I was almost sure that the 2+2er had a big pair.

When I look at my hand now, I realy don't know why I didn't raise somewhere. I think raising the turn would be good.

I like your river analyses

uw_madtown · #6 08-18-2005, 01:08 PM

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I think raising the turn would be good.

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Yup.

mscags · #7 08-18-2005, 01:21 PM

I probably raise the turn since it has given you a ton of outs now.