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Old 08-09-2005, 12:22 PM
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Just curious as to peoples' preflop standards on the button and blinds given looser games. If you don't care don't post.

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Say you're in a loose small stakes game, with 4-5 players seeing a flop.

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo - fold
b. 65s - fold
c. 89s - fold
d. AJo - fold
e. 33 - call
f. 99 - call/raise, probably call
g. 78o - fold

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo - fold
b. 65s - fold
c. 89s - fold
d. AJo - more than likely fold
e. 33 - call
f. 99 - call
g. 78o - fold
h. 57s - fold

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s - probably call but folding might be best
b. 56o - fold
c. K9o - fold
d. 32s - close between folding/calling
e. JTo - usually call
f. 98o - fold
g. 97o - fold
h. 46s - call

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Old 08-09-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Preflop quiz for loose games (inspired by micro-limit post)

Hand 1:

Raiser + 2 coldcallers + at least one likely to come along from the blinds + I have position postflop. With all of those criteria, I'm calling with 33 & 99, maybe 89s if I'm feeling frisky. The rest of the hands you listed hit the muck; if the JT & AJ hands were suited, I would come along with those as well.

Hand 2:
Again, 33 and 99 are easy plays. I still don't think you have good enough odds to continue with JTo, and I'm not touching AJo OOP against most raisers.

Hand 3:
In the BB with a raise & 3 callers, I'm playing 47s, JTo, 98o, and 46s for sure. If I'm utterly confident that I will get paid off big time by my opponents when I hit, I'll give 32s & 56o a whirl.

FWIW, it does matter what kind of player the PFR & coldcallers are. If the PFR is really LAGgy and the coldcallers are just "any two will do" types, then AJo becomes a 3-bet from the button and a call from the SB & BB. 99 also encroaches on 3-betting territory in those situations.

Okay, now I'll read the replies & see how many people disagree with me. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-09-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Preflop quiz for loose games (inspired by micro-limit post)

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Say you're in a loose small stakes game, with 4-5 players seeing a flop.

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo fold
b. 65s fold
c. 89s call
d. AJo fold
e. 33 call
f. 99 call/raise
g. 78o fold

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo fold
b. 65s fold
c. 89s call
d. AJo fold
e. 33 call
f. 99 call
g. 78o fold
h. 57s fold

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s call
b. 56o fold
c. K9o fold
d. 32s call
e. JTo call
f. 98o call
g. 97o fold
h. 46s call


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Old 08-09-2005, 06:08 PM
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Do people really call JTo here? I don't want to play an offsuit broadway hand OOP five ways.

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You have great relative position here though if you flop a monster hand/draw.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Preflop quiz for loose games (inspired by micro-limit post)

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Just curious as to peoples' preflop standards on the button and blinds given looser games. If you don't care don't post.

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Say you're in a loose small stakes game, with 4-5 players seeing a flop.

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo - fold
b. 65s - fold
c. 89s - fold
d. AJo - fold
e. 33 - fold/call
f. 99 - call
g. 78o - fold

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo - fold
b. 65s - fold
c. 89s - fold
d. AJo - fold
e. 33 - call
f. 99 -call
g. 78o - fold
h. 57s - fold

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s - call
b. 56o - fold
c. K9o - fold
d. 32s - call
e. JTo - call
f. 98o - fold
g. 97o - fold
h. 46s - call

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Old 08-17-2005, 08:18 PM
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I will compile all of these when the thread dies down and give the general perception of each hand and what people do.

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time to do this? it would be great.. =)
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Preflop quiz for loose games (inspired by micro-limit post)

Say you're in a loose small stakes game, with 4-5 players seeing a flop.

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo easy fold
b. 65s easy fold
c. 89s easy fold
d. AJo fold unless the pf-raiser is really loose raiser +21% pfr
e. 33 call (depending on how tight raiser he is)
f. 99 call (depending on how tight raiser he is)
g. 78o easy fold

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo fold
b. 65s fold (if its a very loose raiser I might call)
c. 89s fold (if its a very loose raiser I might call)
d. AJo fold
e. 33 call
f. 99 call
g. 78o fold
h. 57s fold

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s call unless its a tight raiser (less than 5% pfr)
b. 56o fold
c. K9o fold
d. 32s call unless its a tight raiser (less than 5% pfr)
e. JTo fold
f. 98o fold
g. 97o fold
h. 46s call unless its a tight raiser (less than 5% pfr)
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Preflop quiz for loose games (inspired by micro-limit post)

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Just curious as to peoples' preflop standards on the button and blinds given looser games. If you don't care don't post.

------------------------------------------------

Say you're in a loose small stakes game, with 4-5 players seeing a flop.

In this hand, there is a raiser and 2 cold callers, and you are on the button, with somewhat loose blinds (you can expect at least one to come along)

1:
a. JTo <font color="blue"> fold </font>
b. 65s <font color="blue"> call </font>
c. 89s <font color="blue"> call </font>
d. AJo <font color="blue"> fold </font>
e. 33 <font color="blue"> call </font>
f. 99 <font color="blue"> call / raise </font>
g. 78o <font color="blue"> fold </font>

In this hand, you are in the SB, and there is again a raiser and 2 cold callers, and a loose BB.
2.
a. JTo <font color="blue"> fold </font>
b. 65s <font color="blue"> call </font>
c. 89s <font color="blue"> call </font>
d. AJo <font color="blue"> fold </font>
e. 33 <font color="blue"> call </font>
f. 99 <font color="blue"> call </font>
g. 78o <font color="blue"> fold </font>
h. 57s <font color="blue"> fold </font>

In this hand, you are the BB, and there has been a raiser and 3 cold callers

3.
a. 47s <font color="blue"> call </font>
b. 56o <font color="blue"> call </font>
c. K9o <font color="blue"> fold </font>
d. 32s <font color="blue"> fold </font>
e. JTo <font color="blue"> call </font>
f. 98o <font color="blue"> call </font>
g. 97o <font color="blue"> call </font>
h. 46s <font color="blue"> call </font>


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