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Old 08-16-2005, 03:39 AM
radioheadfan radioheadfan is offline
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

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2/4 NL full table

I have 400, villain has me covered. He seems solid.

I limp UTG with 99. 2 limpers behind me. Villain completes in SB.

(pot size: 20) Flop is 975 with 2 hearts. Villain leads for 20. I call (?!?). Everyone else folds.

(pot size: 60) Turn is an offsuit deuce. Villain leads for 40. I raise to 160. Villain minraises to 280.

Minraises make my head spin. what do I do?!?

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Laughable that people post this kind of garbage.

Push it all in. Expect to get called. Expect to win.
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Old 08-16-2005, 08:15 AM
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This is not a good flop for you and you want to keep in mind Brunson's "never lose your stack in an un-raised pot".

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So anything other than a 99x flop for 99 is bad? I mean even a 928r has a draw on it.
This a great flop! you should be foaming at the mouth to get ur stack in.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

i think he meant not a good flop to let others draw for cheap

just bad phrasing
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

There are times that you want others to see the turn in the hopes that they will improve their hand so you can extract more money. I see this flop as being the kind where the next card could beat you. You can takes your chances if you pays your money.
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

i hate tough beat posts, they are worse then bad beat posts because they are disguised better.
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Old 08-16-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

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This is not a good flop for you and you want to keep in mind Brunson's "never lose your stack in an un-raised pot". I think a small minraise would have been better.


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I'll bet even Brunson's gone broke with top set in an unraised pot. I bet Brunson wouldn't even think twice about it if he only had 100 blinds in front of him when the hand started. The last thing I am worrying about here is going broke. This is often going to be 55, 77, 97, 95 and occasionally even AA or a freak A9/22. There is no reason to put this guy smack on 68.

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Old 08-16-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

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River plays itself unless a read indicates that trip 9s might be good.

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River plays itself only because all your money should be going in the middle on the river if you made a mistake and failed to get it in before then. Looking for a fold here is beyond insane.
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Old 08-17-2005, 05:59 PM
Shaun Shaun is offline
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

so what happened?
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

I called his turn raise. He pushed a blank river. I talked myself into calling even though I knew I was beat. He tabled 68 and then called me a donkey for getting stacked in an unraised pot.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:58 AM
AdamBragar AdamBragar is offline
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Default Re: Top Set in Unraised Pot

Sometimes you get stacked because you've got a really good hand (2nd nuts in this case) and someone has a better hand. You've still got to get your money in, in these positions. Too high a chance of other hands.

If you won this hand set over set, would you have posted it?
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