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08-16-2005, 05:26 PM
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The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
Geesh, I dunno how many donks a day I see using the good ol' min-raise.
They're as liable to do it with pocket Aces as they are with A/8 sooted UTG. They do it from MP, they do it out of position in the blinds after there are 27 limpers, it just don't make no gosh-darn sense! Please tell me no 2+2ers employ the min-raise. And if so, please explain in what situations you'd use this 99.9% donkish manuever 
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#2
08-16-2005, 06:14 PM
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Re: The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
I've used it a fair number times, but only on the river. You're holding something like JJ and the board looks like J 10 9 9 8, donk bets on the river, you mini-raise, they will ALWAYS CALL. I've never seen the average donk NOT call a river mini-raise, even when they're holding something like top pair.
They fold to a larger raise, but will always call the mini-raise on the river, even a check mini-raise, because they 'have to see what the guy has, he might be bluffing me, and hey, it's only $15 more'.
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08-16-2005, 08:33 PM
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Re: The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
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08-16-2005, 08:36 PM
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Re: The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
Sit and go's, preflop, <5 people left, high blinds, kings or aces.
The min raise late in in sit and goes makes it look like you're trying to take the blinds. I can't count how many times people will just push all in, trying to call bullsh1t on you with their KJ or A6. The min raise is a great tool. -Matt
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#7
08-16-2005, 08:48 PM
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Re: The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
i min raise all the time so that good players think i am a donk and i get paid off on good hands
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#8
08-16-2005, 08:56 PM
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Re: The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
Min-raising with A/A or K/K also allows them to just call and hit two pair, a draw, etc. and have a shot at taking down your pocket pair. I've seen many a min-raising fool with a strong hand get himself into trouble.
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#9
08-16-2005, 09:09 PM
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Re: The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
You're losing value by only minraising rivers on a board like that. Bet more, its player dependent, but the donks that will always call a minraise will also usually call a larger raise.
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#10
08-16-2005, 09:51 PM
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Re: The Dreaded..........MIN-RAISE!
The min-raise is a valid move; a move in an arsenal of plays.
It is better to think in terms of your EV of the hand (which includes all pertinent info such as positions, stack size, etc.) and HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN EXTRACT from the opponent/ situation. Some opponents will take the bait of one move while another will see right through it. Not considering all aspects of the hand in play makes the min-raises or post-oak-bluffs or donk-bets a george play. The min-raise itself is not a fish move per se. Focus more on your opponents' tendencies and how you can exploit them instead of shooting down a particular play...THAT is winning poker. -ZEN
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