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Old 08-15-2005, 06:12 PM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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nothing i can do here, right?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP folds, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 3 BB
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:27 PM
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The pot isn't offering the odds for you to draw to 2 outs to try and hit trips. UTG might just be throwing in a bet to win the pot, but there really isn't enough in there to make it worth trying to keep him honest. Against a habitual bluffer that always bets into uncontested pots, I might check/call or raise for a free showdown. Don't think I'd want to mess with a low pair, though.
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 44

What, are you hoping he has a 3 or is semi-bluffing?

Now look at the pot size.
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: 44

Even if he is semibluffing, he likely has a ton of outs against your hand, and you aren't going to be able to tell when the river pairs his flush draw. The more likely scenario is he thinks his 8 or T is the best pair now. Even if you are closing the action on the turn, I think you fold here.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: 44

The only thing you "could" do is bet the turn yourself. After you check there is nothing you can do.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: 44

Yeah, you got your 7:1 pre-flop, whiffed once, whiffed again, and its time to shut it down. Opponents were idiots for checking it through on the flop. In fact, I see this all the time at 3/6, where small pairs are given a free look and make the checkers (who had the small pairs beat previously) pay all or most the way down. The great thing about 3/6 6max is that opponents ROUTINELY call every street with hands like 44 when they shouldn't, hoping to hit their 2 outer or that their hand is somehow good. Everytime they call with these hands while behind, you profit handsomely.

Check/fold the turn and get your money in somewhere more profitable.
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Old 08-16-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: 44

I would bet the turn occaisonally. Decide what to do on the river if you get called.
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Old 08-16-2005, 07:07 PM
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I think I'd either lead the flop or be planning on folding to any bet.
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Old 08-16-2005, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: 44

Is there supposed to be a question here? You either bet the turn or give up.
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Old 08-16-2005, 07:59 PM
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bet the turn and yell,,,,,,,,,,,, ONE TIME
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