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Old 08-15-2005, 12:11 PM
rryjew rryjew is offline
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Default Re: Stupid PF Question #570

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Yes. You have position, you're likely to isolate and buy the button, and the hand should be pretty easy to play after your 3-bet.

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Ok, I often have problems with this type of hand, so I guess I'm looking for a little more info. Say I 3-bet here and successfully buy the button.

How do you play a flop with one or more overcards and villian bets?

No overcards and villian bets?

One or more overcards and villian check raises?

Finally, no overcards villian check raises?
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Stupid PF Question #570

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How do you play a flop with one or more overcards and villian bets?

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Depends on what overcard it is and how many there are. Folding or raising, folding more.

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No overcards and villian bets?

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Raise.

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One or more overcards and villian check raises?

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Again, depends on the overcards and how many.

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Finally, no overcards villian check raises?

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3-bet.
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Stupid PF Question #570

I'm going to imagine that villain calls the three-bet, and that I have no idea about what the board contains other than what you've just told me.

I'm also going to give you default plays.

Therefore I'll often be wrong, but I think this is a reasonable starting point (but it still won't be much help).

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Ok, I often have problems with this type of hand, so I guess I'm looking for a little more info. Say I 3-bet here and successfully buy the button.

How do you play a flop with one or more overcards and villian bets?


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Punch yourself in the nuts if it's two overcards, and fold. Step one of this play is vital.

If it's one overcard, play it the same as no overcards.

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No overcards and villian bets?


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Raise, bet the turn, take a free showdown.

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One or more overcards and villian check raises?


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Call, fold the turn unimproved.

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Finally, no overcards villian check raises?

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Three-bet, bet the turn, take a free showdown.

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Don't do any of these plays all the time. Taylor them to the board, the opponent, your opponents feelings, and your image.

For example, if this guy's called the river with ace-high once or twice in the past (luckily party lets you see this), bet the river sometimes too.
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Stupid PF Question #570

If the board is all undercards on the river and your opponent hasn't done anything but call since the flop I'm value-betting.
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Stupid PF Question #570

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If the board is all undercards on the river and your opponent hasn't done anything but call since the flop I'm value-betting.

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Cool.

Nice location, by the way! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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