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Old 08-12-2005, 02:54 AM
DownUnder DownUnder is offline
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Default Re: A place that I don\'t think I can ever (correctly) fold in

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One small correction: Hero's got 9 outs to beat A2, not 6.

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Old 08-12-2005, 02:58 AM
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One small correction: Hero's got 9 outs to beat A2, not 6.

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I was just going mention this.
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: A place that I don\'t think I can ever (correctly) fold in

Ahzran,

I think you right about the idea that I am never going to fold this pot to one bet on the end and should proably end up being calculated into my decision on whether to call or fold the turn, because getting 6.5-1, this is an easy easy fold.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:05 AM
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Hey downunder, which part of sydney, you post on PNW?

I check call turn and river, your probably beat but you want to get to show down as cheap as possible
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:29 AM
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Oh well...either way, Im still calling the flop raise and CRing the turn.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:35 AM
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I would check the flop here FWIW. Not saying that it is right, but it is what I would do.

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Old 08-12-2005, 11:02 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: A place that I don\'t think I can ever (correctly) fold in

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I would check the flop here FWIW. Not saying that it is right, but it is what I would do.

Brad

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With no obvious source of a bet that I can identify I think that a flop lead is the best play here from a value standpoint. Letting this get checked through would be pretty lame. We will often be raised here as well and given pre-flop action we are not likely to be up against a better A, so flop raises will often be coming from weaker As.

I don't find a fold here either given the counterfeit potential.
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Old 08-12-2005, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: A place that I don\'t think I can ever (correctly) fold in

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Oh well...either way, Im still calling the flop raise and CRing the turn.

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I think your line is a mistake. With this board, I think you want to make sure the weak aces and the draws to straights either pay as much as possible or fold on the flop. Don't let them catch up for a correct price on their draw. If they are going to call anyway, they might as well overpay.
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