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Old 08-09-2005, 01:52 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: 109--Bubble play with chip lead

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If the big blind has been playing tight then wouldn't a raise of 4 or 5xBB get him to fold any hand that he would've folded to an all-in bet? Or do you believe that there are hands that he would fold to an all-in bet but would play against a raise of 4 x BB?

If you raise 4xBB he's only going to reraise with hands that you are a big underdog against. This gives you a chance to get away from the hand.

You're the chip leader with an M of 8, and the two small stacks have an M of 3.5. Is the risk of having an all-in bet called by a hand that will be more than a 2-1 favorite compensated by the additional hands that will be folded to an all-in bet but not to a 4xBB raise?

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You want to get away with a hand after raising 40% of your stack and getting better than 2:1 immediate odds on a call?

I don't think so.
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:05 AM
RobertC RobertC is offline
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Default Re: 109--Bubble play with chip lead

Any hand that this tight player reraises with will win > 70% of the time against A-2. Do you want to be all-in as this big a dog when you're the chip leader on the bubble? If there are no hands that this tight player will fold against an all-in but play against a raise of 4xBB, then the all-in can't be right.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:04 AM
TylerD TylerD is offline
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Default Re: 109--Bubble play with chip lead

I'd make it 750 to go. If he's tight he's not going to call, but this way the times he does call (or raises) he won't get your stack.
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Old 08-09-2005, 06:21 AM
TheArtist TheArtist is offline
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BB end up calling with AK and I lose. What if you guys are the bb, what is the minumum hand you will need to call here knowing that sb(me) will push with alot of hands.
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Old 08-09-2005, 06:28 AM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: Results and...

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BB end up calling with AK and I lose. What if you guys are the bb, what is the minumum hand you will need to call here knowing that sb(me) will push with alot of hands.

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it all depends on the exact push range really.. 10x is pushing it for loose calls like AQo and things like that. most people couldnt call faster, but i muck without thought a LOT of hands in spots like that getting pushed into. leak or not, doesnt hurt me enough. im not gonna call for a 60% there. aint my style. holla
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