Lots of chips

ALL1N · #1 08-09-2005, 02:35 AM

BB in this hand is a regular (35/20), who's aggressive in a straightforward kind of way. Button is loose, and not very knowledgable.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, BB caps, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises

baronzeus · #2 08-09-2005, 02:41 AM

I think if BB is very aggressive in a straightforward kind of way it's equally likely that he has some ridicullous draw here that he's overplaying.

Button sticking around is troubling but it points to a draw as well.

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WTF

I can't play 30/60 ever

nervous · #3 08-09-2005, 02:42 AM

I don't play 30/60, but isn't this obvious spewing? Heh, maybe that is a whole different level than what I am thinking on.

aK13 · #4 08-09-2005, 02:43 AM

I don't have the balls to do this at 30/60.

baronzeus · #5 08-09-2005, 02:47 AM

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I don't have the money to do this at 30/60.

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FYP.

stripsqueez · #6 08-09-2005, 02:54 AM

i was thinking that maybe the turn raise will scare the button but then i remembered that he had a history of calling 2 cold

i think you comfortably crossed the line between aggro and spewing

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

aK13 · #7 08-09-2005, 03:05 AM

Personally, I believe this is one of those "I tried it and I was right", but a -EV play in the end. While it is true that you are ahead of a straight and a flush draw, it's still likely that donkey button is calling down with any piece, or that BB is doing this with bottom 2pair/set since the game is aggressive.

Surfbullet · #8 08-09-2005, 03:50 AM

IMO this is spewing, but I am not familiar with the players and table conditions, recent hands, etc.

It's possible that the flop 4bet makes it more likely, not less, that villain is on a draw...as many of these "straightforward aggressive" guys will predictably slowplay big hands to the turn.

Button calling along worries me because it'll often be with a weakish pair, or even a scared Q.

Surf

Stack · #9 08-09-2005, 03:57 AM

I think the less meaningful play in the flop 3-bet. I don't see it accomplish anything positive for us.