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Old 08-05-2005, 01:52 PM
bdk3clash bdk3clash is offline
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How's it feel to be born with absolutely no moral compass? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Pleasantly liberating.
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:54 PM
SL__72 SL__72 is offline
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Ok, maybe jason_t's statement about anonymous douchebags was just a little bit of an understatement.
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:58 PM
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Ok, maybe jason_t's statement about anonymous douchebags was just a little bit of an understatement.

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Blah blah blah. Pardon me for wishing that thieves get punished for their crimes. Yes, it's exactly the same as if I went out there and personally robbed an innocent person. Exactly.

If this guy expressed some remorse, it'd be different. But "I'm not proud" does not cover it.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:01 PM
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It's worth it to lose money and to sit in an unfavorable situation if it builds human capital. Beating the 10/20 game just once would be a nice confidence booster for Joe 5/10, it would probably make him think about poker a bit.

You guys remember that post by various 100/200 players about how dropping down to 30/60 made the 30 game seem so easy?

It's worth it to lose $80 in expected winrate for a few hours if the gain is the ability to increase your winrate in the future.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:16 PM
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so august 1st was the end of my second year as a poker player. sadly, it was the end of my first year of being a winning player.

i was a losing player at poker for an entire year. i thought i was a winning player. i read HPFAP, but didn't understand it at all. i would go to chumash casino with my roomate and we would play 4-8 with 100 bucks. one bad beat later and 2 missed flops and i would have 2 BB left. then raise any ace allin and lose cuz the flops were 4-6 handed.

i lost about 3000 and owed my roomate about 1500 (he was a small winning player and could afford to laon me money).

I started doing things I'm not proud of. I stole, a lot. Mainly bikes left unlocked at random places on campus. i'd resell em to friends for 30-40 bucks. that year i stole in excess of 40 bikes.

I would scrape together any money possible and drive alone to the casino, lose in about 2 hours, and go back home. sometimes it would take me 8 hours to lose. i would come back at 4-5 in the morning and not go to class.

then i got kicked outta school.

In april, i found a site caled futureme.org and sent myself a letter for one year later. Here was the letter:

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(this message was composed on Tue, Apr 6, 2004)

Dear FutureMe,
I hope you're succesful, because you were just kicked outta college. You have 2 jobs right now and are trying to get back in. I'm trying to quit poker right now, cuz as you remember it was devistating to you.

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summer came, and i had no future. i put 100 bucks into party, and played 2-4 with 50 bucks. a week later it was gone. i re-bought again. ran in up to 500, then lost it. this time, i rebought and said i would only play 5+1s.

3 months later i'm 4 tabling the 55's and i have about 2000. i pay back my friend what i owe him and continue playing.

then i find twoplustwo.com
(actually shant found it)

i go look at mid-high stakes and read a post by a guy called mike l. it's a 100-200 hand. he river check-raise bluffs with Ace high and is called by pocket 4s on a board of 7733Q.

i fell in love

i lurked for about 2 months before making an account. i named myself klepton to remind myself of the wrong ideals i once had. by this time i had read SSH and had about 2000. i started 4 tabling 3-6 with no reads, no PT. i read almost every single small stakes hand possible, and read every mid-high stakes hand. every other post talked about the glory of the 15/30, and then i found PT.

on august 1st i started a pokercharts account and started to log everything. all i knew was i had to get ot the 15-30 as fast as possible, especially with a new post every other day asking the question "is the 15-30 drying up [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]??"

january hit and my roll was 6k. i started playing 5-10. worst 2 months of my life. all i did was grit my teeth at the screen and playing 1500 hand sessions to get un-stuck.

by march i had 10k, and decided it was time for the 15-30. my first 1500 hands of 15-30 i lost 4000. i opened up PT and literally went over every hand i played to see what i was doing wrong. aside from one hand where i bluff raised the river on a missed flush draw, i was playing perfectly.

by may i had 22k, and then the party 30-60 tables opened up.

cha-ching.

so now it's august, and i'm trying to think about the things i've done to get here. i don't post as many hands as pokerbob, and i don't analyze extremely deeply as jason_t does, i just do whatever i can to learn as much as i can from the game.

and yes, i ran extremely well. the first 20 days of may was one entire winning streak. am i the second coming of bicyclekick? no. but i did move up.

and that's why i made this post.

move up.

if you have 500bb at your current level, take 50BB and two-table a higher level. hell, take 25bb and take a shot at a juicy table. the play between levels only increases slightly. sure there's a difference between 3-6 and 15-30, but there's not a gigantic difference between 2-4 and 3-6, or 10-20 and 15-30. the only difference is your confidence.

now i'm not advocating playing out of your bankroll. and i'm not saying if you're a 2-4 player take 750 and one table 15-30. i'm saying the minute you spend about 2000 hands at a level you win be immediatly comfortable. even if you are losing, you come onto 2p2, post a couple hands, no matter if you played them horribly or perfect, you're confidence is gonna boost tremendously

shant started playing 2-4 when i was at the 3-6 level. one month ago, shant was at 5-10 SH. he was on the worst run of his life...about 2 months of break even poker. but rakeback is nice. he had enough to take a shot at 10-20. his confidence is so high now he doens't even complain about anything anymore. he's playing 15-30. in 2 months he'll be at 30-60.

move up. take shots. figure out what makes these games harder. the experience of losing 50bb at a higher level will help you in the long run.

i'm happy that i didn't quit poker. i'm happy that i moved up and took shots. i'm happy i'm not a klepto anymore.

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I really enjoy reading your post. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Sounds like you are a good person who just made some bad calls in the past. Takes a hell of a guy to admit what he has done. I wish you the best. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:22 PM
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No, I think jason is right... also how is wishing for someone to have their stuff stolen any better then just doing it yourself?

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You can't possibly be serious
The reason that I don't steal, and the reason that many other morally conscious people don't steal, isn't because of a fear of getting caught, it's because we wouldn't want it done to us.
Obviously, Klepton and others don't feel this way, but I'm quite sure they wouldn't be forgiving of someone that stole from them.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:33 PM
JPotMaster JPotMaster is offline
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Takes a hell of a guy to admit what he has done. I wish you the best. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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It does?
Why?
He hasn't had any punishment for his crimes.
He had stole "in excess of 40 bikes."
Let's say $300 a bike...that's over $12,000
That's grand theft

It didn't seem to me that he was even remorseful that he caused people loss

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he goes "no dude, this is my bike, how unfortunate for you."

that line cracked my friends up for days,

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Over 40 people's lives were negatively affected by his selfish actions and you think that it's admirable because he anonymously posts it on an internet message board?
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:01 PM
SL__72 SL__72 is offline
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I wasn't saying stealing is right. I was just pointing out that being a dick isn't great either.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:14 PM
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I was just pointing out that being a dick isn't great either.

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I wanted to ignore this but your thinking seems way off to me. I don’t see how I was being a dick. I’ve been on the other end of this type of theft and I think he was a punk for doing it and I hope he truly understands that.
Sorry if I'm not saying this

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Much more respect for you now

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But, I don't have more respect for him and I can’t for the life of me understand why others are defending him…much less praising him.
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:24 PM
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Personally, I can tolerate someone being a dick. I can't tolerate someone stealing from me.
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