poker is all luck

[sully4321]

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<font color="red">yeh i no</font> but <font color="red">i </font>will still win

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Clearly private schools are better than public ones...

-ZEN

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what a douchebag... he corrects grammar that obviously wasn't intended to be perfect...

the guy does it making sure all of his grammar is perfect, by the way

what a fagg

[Rotterdaum]

Why would they reply that there was in fact enough luck involved, thus undermining their own accomplishment?

[ThinkQuick]

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Hmmmm if you win every game of chess but lose every coin toss, you will end up losing in the long term right? Am I missing something?

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Yes you're missing something. It is a coin toss so by definition you will break even in the long run on it.
Therefore, as the poster says, it comes down to the game of chess.

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Should be pretty easy. Tell them you will play them 10,000 hands, if you win, you get all their money. Then they can see if they really trust in their "it's all luck" or if they have second thoughts and think they will lose because you are better.

Of course, this requires that you are better than them and can win consistently. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If you are any good, make a bet that its not luck and that you can beat them (x out x times).

YOur an idiot Zen. Dont be a hater.

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Well, one way to explain would be to point out players like Johnny Chan winning the World Series two years in a row and coming in second the next. Or point out Phil Ivey and Ted Forrest winning three bracelets in a year. Explain that it would be impossible for these things if poker were pure luck. Or just take all their money in a game. That would work too.

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"Why do you think the same 5 guys make it to the final table of the World Series of Poker every year? What are they - the luckiest guys in Vegas?"

Just had to get that in there. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

if poker is luck, ask them why Johnny Chan won the WSOP back to back, then came in 2nd??? Think his luck is always better than 350 field?
cdl

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rposeagles:
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Well, one way to explain would be to point out players like Johnny Chan winning the World Series two years in a row and coming in second the next....

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cdlarmore:
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if poker is luck, ask them why Johnny Chan won the WSOP back to back, then came in 2nd??? Think his luck is always better than 350 field?
cdl


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Now it's a doubly good example

[ImCrazy]

I just read this in another post and I think it is a great way to describe why strategy is valid in this game of ours...



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I was helping a new player out with a series of small
stakes NL hands and had noticed overall that he was
playing too passively. I explained to the best of my
abilities why raising or folding is in general
superior to calling, then he said this, which I
thought was very profound:


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Ok, I think i get it. In holdem everyone gets the same
hands long term and against any other player at the
table they'll be better about half the time and worse
the other half. When i have a better hand, i want to
play a bigger pot, so i should raise, and when i have
a worse hand, i don't want to pay him off, so i should
fold. If i make bigger pots when I'm ahead, i take his
money long term. Calling just doesn't make sense if
you think about it.