tough river decision

vkotlyar · #1 08-03-2005, 06:34 AM

1-2 NL. 6 handed. I raise utg to 12 w A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
($750) Villain on button calls (600). He plays too many hands. BB calls (350).
FLOP: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I bet 30 and both players call
Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I bet 100 and button calls quickly. BB calls as well.
River: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I bet 150. Button quickly moves allin for 450. The BB thinks for a minute and calls allin (200). I guess he didnt realize that i was still to act, and turned over Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. The button looks at him and shakes his head no, like his hand is no good. Hes kind of an honest guy and has told players that their hand is no good in the past while they were still thinking, and i believe him. I know he has that hand beat. Your move?
thanks
V

ChewyMint · #2 08-03-2005, 07:55 AM

In this hand, my chips are going in the pot. Reason is, the person shaking his head could be doing so thinking "You were in this pot with Q4?!", or he could be doing so because he flipped his hand with you still to act. Also, you know that player's money is dead in the pot, so you're calling $300 more into a 3-handed pot with $37+90+300+150+450+200=$1227. Just over 4-1 on a call with the nut flush, when you know you have one player beat already. My chips are going in. You're ahead WAY more often than 1/4 of the time.

ChewyMint

Sadat X · #3 08-03-2005, 02:34 PM

Fold preflop. Other than that I like the hand.

I'd have to call the river here. Not many players have the patience to play a set like this. When the board shows 678J with 2 hearts, he's probably going to raise with 88 or JJ. I really think you're priced in here.

vkotlyar · #4 08-03-2005, 04:45 PM

"he's probably going to raise with 88 or JJ"
im dont think he has 88 or JJ. i think he has either 67, 78, or J7. He has slowplayed 2 pr on the turn before just to see if he would get counterfeited.
V