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Old 07-29-2003, 06:26 AM
FletchJr. FletchJr. is offline
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Default Value bet or not? Online 15/30

UTg+2 limps, the rest fold to me in the small blind. I got KcKh and raise. the BB calls. UTG+2 calls.

Flop [ Qd, 9d, 2c ]

I bet. BB raise. UTG+2 folds. I 3 bet. BB calls.

Turn [ 3c ]

I bet. BB calls.

River [ 8h ]

Value Bet or not?
Check and call?
Bet and fold to a raise?
bet and call a raise?
Check Raise?
Please post your opinion.
Results to follow.
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Old 07-29-2003, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: Value bet or not? Online 15/30

Bet. Any queen or even some 9's call you.

Jeff
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Old 07-29-2003, 09:40 AM
Ed Miller Ed Miller is offline
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Default Re: Value bet or not? Online 15/30

Huh? I guess JT just got there, but otherwise, this is a decent river card for you. I see no reason to stop betting.
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Old 07-29-2003, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: Value bet or not? Online 15/30

I would bet here probably a 100% of the time. I would also call a raise, unless he really is a straight forward player that would only raise the river with the nuts.
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Old 07-29-2003, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: Value bet or not? Online 15/30

bet.
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Value bet or not? Online 15/30

If it were the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I could see a check-call as str8 and flush got there, plus you may induce a bet from AQ or weaker. In this case I think a bet is called for.
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Value bet or not? Online 15/30

Bet. You're thinking like a wimp.
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Value bet or not? Online 15/30

Well, the only reason that he could be asking this question is that his opponent had J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], he bet, was raised, and he paid off.

Regardless, the correct play is to bet. SO many worse hands will pay you off. If he has JT, then you say, "Good hand," and wait for him to pay you off like a slot machine for the rest of the night.
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:35 PM
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Bet and call a raise. What makes you think you are not in the lead. Probably against top pair with good kicker.
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:47 PM
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Yes, and if you get raised the question is will you 3-bet or just call. Depends on your knowledge of the player.

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