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Old 08-03-2005, 10:01 AM
Bobbrt1329 Bobbrt1329 is offline
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Default Tables of Gold and Nothing to Show for It

Let's get right to it:
Two NL ($50) tables, one idiot per table.

Idiot #1 raises preflop with any pair or suited cards, and will not fold afterwards, no matter what happens.
Idiot #2 does the same thing, only with EVERY hand.
In each case below their stack is bigger than mine.
I have:

Ah Ad: $50 stack against Idiot #1. He raises, I reraise, he reraises, I go all in. He shows Ks 8s and gets five spades.

JJ: $30 stack against Idiot #1. He raises to $2, all fold, I go all-in, knowing that he has a worse hand and he'll call me. He shows AQo and hits a straight.

KK: $118 stack against Idiot #2. He raises to $3, one caller, I raise to $15, he raises to $30, caller folds, I go all in and he calls. He shows 99 and flops a set. As an extra kick in the nuts, if I hadn't driven out the caller in between, he would have flopped a set of sixes.

So my question is, against morons like this, should I NOT be trying to get all of my money into the pot with what is almost guaranteed to be the best hands? Should I slow down preflop to beat them with good postflop play and possibly extricate myself from a bad situation?

With the aces I could have folded at least after the fourth spade hit, with the kings there were no overcards and nothing scary, but I probably at least wouldn't have lost my whole stack, and with the jacks, since I would have flopped a set, I was probably dead anyway.

Is my preflop strategy here wrong for a cash game?
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Tables of Gold and Nothing to Show for It

moron
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:05 AM
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Your strategy is perfect. Just find donks and punish them.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:12 AM
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ure having a bad run - those are good plays - but if you say they won't fold after the flop, sure, wait for the flop before risking all your chips
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:16 AM
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oh my lord, if i could sit down with those guys i'd do exactly what you did every day for the rest of my life and be happy. seriously, if you get all your stack in PF with AA against folks that will call with K8 then you should follow them everywhere and keep doing what you are doing. you are going to win that back eventually, especially when you are so far ahead, so just keep doing what you are doing. three hands, you got screwed - nothing to do but reload and hope they don't go broke before you can break them.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:18 AM
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bite me...this is a pathetic bad beat troll, the dude has 9 posts and you responded seriously to it? Anyone who thinks he shouldn't get his money in with AA preflop is obviously trolling or has exactly zero understanding of any hold-em concept and decided to make an ass out of himself with his 9th post....gimme a break. But thanks for chiming in.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:18 AM
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Let's get right to it:
Two NL ($50) tables, one idiot per table.

Idiot #1 raises preflop with any pair or suited cards, and will not fold afterwards, no matter what happens.
Idiot #2 does the same thing, only with EVERY hand.
In each case below their stack is bigger than mine.
I have:

Ah Ad: $50 stack against Idiot #1. He raises, I reraise, he reraises, I go all in. He shows Ks 8s and gets five spades.

JJ: $30 stack against Idiot #1. He raises to $2, all fold, I go all-in, knowing that he has a worse hand and he'll call me. He shows AQo and hits a straight.

KK: $118 stack against Idiot #2. He raises to $3, one caller, I raise to $15, he raises to $30, caller folds, I go all in and he calls. He shows 99 and flops a set. As an extra kick in the nuts, if I hadn't driven out the caller in between, he would have flopped a set of sixes.

So my question is, against morons like this, should I NOT be trying to get all of my money into the pot with what is almost guaranteed to be the best hands? Should I slow down preflop to beat them with good postflop play and possibly extricate myself from a bad situation?

With the aces I could have folded at least after the fourth spade hit, with the kings there were no overcards and nothing scary, but I probably at least wouldn't have lost my whole stack, and with the jacks, since I would have flopped a set, I was probably dead anyway.

Is my preflop strategy here wrong for a cash game?

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You're telling bad beat stories. They are boring. Your play is fine. Poker has some gambling involved.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:28 AM
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moron

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second.

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should I NOT be trying to get all of my money into the pot with what is almost guaranteed to be the best hands?

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The fact that you can write the second part of the sentence makes you a troll. This is just a big fat whine post.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:37 AM
Bobbrt1329 Bobbrt1329 is offline
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For those who responded intelligently so far (and in the future), thanks. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't kidding myself thinking that I had made the right decisions, when there may have been some reason not to play so aggressively before any of the cards came out.
Most of my experience and reading is on tournament play, and I didn't know if you needed to think differently when in a cash game. I figured my play was good (except maybe for the jacks hand), but you never know.

To the rest of you, get a life and accept the fact that some people are just looking for help.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:57 AM
Godfather80 Godfather80 is offline
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For those who responded intelligently so far (and in the future), thanks. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't kidding myself thinking that I had made the right decisions, when there may have been some reason not to play so aggressively before any of the cards came out.
Most of my experience and reading is on tournament play, and I didn't know if you needed to think differently when in a cash game. I figured my play was good (except maybe for the jacks hand), but you never know.

To the rest of you, get a life and accept the fact that some people are just looking for help.

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Try posting some hands with real decisions if you want intelligent reactions. Otherwise, quit trolling. You're post was 95% noise.
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