AJo on BB, raised pot, miss flop

smokylosecannon · #1 08-03-2005, 04:59 AM

What does people think of this hand. I don't think I played well, but I didn't know exactly what to do. Any comment is welcome.

UTG is TAG, Button is LAG, and SB is LPP

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Should I have called? or just bad call.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

now, i picked up OESD, so I called

River: (10.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

@bsolute_luck · #2 08-03-2005, 05:55 AM

Flop
you have ~3.5 outs on the flop: 3 outs for discounted OCs and .5 for a goofy straight. so you need ~12 which you are obviously getting better than that. your hand is waaaay too weak to raise here at all

Turn is too obviousy of a call, but again, not worth a raise. here's where i'd make my move though if i'm going to make one. i'd want to lead out, though c/r is also an option. i would guess it would have to depend on whether UTG will continuation bet with nothing, what he would reraise you with if you lead out, or if he'll simply call down with his pocket pair fearing a stronger hand, but won't fold it.

River: based on your read, i doubt he's continuing to bet with nothing or a worse A-high, so fold is goot.

MATT111 · #3 08-03-2005, 06:41 AM

Well played.
I often crying-call the river.

macdaddy991 · #4 08-03-2005, 06:42 AM

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What range of hands by UTG do you possibly beat?

ajrenni · #5 08-03-2005, 07:46 AM

*grunching*

I would fold this pre-flop. AJ is not a good hand against 5 oppponents, especially if one has raised. You seriously risk domination, and/or getting beat by a big hand.

On the flop you are getting 14:1, so if you discount your overcard outs to 1.5 each and give yourself 1.5 for the Backdoor Straight, you are getting the odds to call, and it helps that you are closing the action.

Innocentius · #6 08-03-2005, 08:45 AM

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What range of hands by UTG do you possibly beat?

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Not many for sure. But I think the threat from the button is even worse. Ok, he is LPP, but even very bad players don't call down with K high. UTG could concievably be bluffing (not very likely though), but the button could not.

2+2 Junkie · #7 08-03-2005, 09:53 AM

Grunching...
Fold the flop, you have 3 outs IMO, so you don't have the odds to continue.
Turn- With the OESD, you should call here.
River- Fine.

I forgot the BDSD, so yeah, you have the right odds to call the flop. You played it fine.

xenthebrain · #8 08-03-2005, 09:54 AM

It's fine IMO.

On the flop you are likely to be dominated or against an overpair and only your ace outs are good. So you have ~3 outs here.
The pot is big and you can easily call here closing the action.

With the OESD on the turn it's a no-brainer, call and fold the iver UI.

davelin · #9 08-03-2005, 09:54 AM

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Do you not like money?

xenthebrain · #10 08-03-2005, 09:56 AM

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Fold the flop, you have 3 outs IMO, so you don't have the odds to continue.

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Why is that, he gets 1:14 with 3 outs and needs 1:14.6.
That's an easy call on the flop. You will get half a BB for sure on the later streets.