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Old 08-01-2005, 10:08 PM
pleyya pleyya is offline
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Default 2 calldowns

Are these ok ?

Party Poker (6 max, 5 handed) 3/6$converter

BB is 23/14/3 No specifc reads

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP call, Hero complete, BB checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero bet, BB raise, MP folds, Hero calls

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero check call

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero check call


Planning to fold to any hart. However the pot is small, is it worth it ?

Party Poker (6 max, 6 handed) 3/6$converter

UTG is 20/12/2 hasnt done anything reckless however seems to think. Should i fold this on turn ?

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

UTG raise 4 fold Hero reraise UTG cap
Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero check call

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero check call

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero check call



Thanks
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:26 PM
spydog spydog is offline
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Default Re: 2 calldowns

Hand 1: I play it the same.

Hand 2: I fold the turn. This is the worst possible board for your Queens versus a TAG who capped preflop, especially from UTG. Occasionally you will be up against JJ or TT, but not enough for a call down to be profitable.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:35 PM
J. Sawyer J. Sawyer is offline
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Default Re: 2 calldowns

I dont like either, I think you can find a fold on the turn in both hands.

Hand 1 your dealing w/ a tag who very well could have a flush draw but most likely doesn't since he wouldnt get very aggro w/ Qh or lower. So your almost always losing here, i might even fold the flop in hand 1.

hand 2 there is no reason to go any further than the turn, he wouldnt not bet flop/turn into you w/out A most likely given stats.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:38 PM
MisterKing MisterKing is offline
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Default Re: 2 calldowns

Hand 1 is tough and player dependent. He could easily have a naked heart draw, but more likely its a heart draw with something else (a pair, or a straight draw). OTOH, his flop raise often means an ace that wants to end the hand early. Did you consider leading the turn and folding to a raise? I don't think draws will raise the turn that often here, assuming it isn't a LAG (and this guy doesn't sound too crazy). If he just calls my turn bet, and a safe card fell on the end, I'd consider either bet/fold or check/call (check/call seems FAR superior, since it gives the hands we do beat a chance to make a desperation bluff, whereas bet/fold does not).

Hand 2: fold the turn. You came, you raised, and you got outflopped/out-turned. Call it a day and make a note that villain doesn't slowplay heads-up.
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