AQ & A8884 vs smart player all-in

LipBalmGuy · #1 07-30-2005, 01:34 PM

$50 buy-in, .25/.50 No-Limit home game (my home), 6 handed
Late in evening's game, it's turned into a post-flop game with most players limping before the flop.

UTG: loose/bad player, very lucky tonight
MP: loose-ish, aggressive, thinks he's better than he really is
Button: best player at table, smart/tricky, loose preflop (and is my boss)
BB-hero: image is book-smart, tight, rarely bluffs (host of game)

PreFlop: BB-Hero dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, EP folds, MP calls, BT calls, SB folds, BB-hero raises to to 3.00, UTG calls, EP folds, MP calls, BT calls.

Flop: (pot 12.00) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
all check

Turn: (pot 12.00) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
all check

River: (pot 12.00) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB-hero bets 10.00, UTG folds, MP folds, BT raises all-in to 95.00

Now: 117.00 pot, 85.00 to call

BB-hero: call or fold?

Komodo · #2 07-30-2005, 02:10 PM

Easy fold I believe. Ive been burned once with a play like that. Only win 11$ when you win and risks much more. Risk/reward is bad for a call like this.

LipBalmGuy · #3 07-31-2005, 07:01 AM

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Easy fold I believe. Ive been burned once with a play like that. Only win 11$ when you win and risks much more. Risk/reward is bad for a call like this.

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I didn't think this was an *obvious* fold, but I did fold. I figured him for either an A or 8, with a small chance of bluffing.

The button did not show, but said he had a four. I find it hard to believe he would over-bet a four.

Other opinions?

whittiphil · #4 07-31-2005, 07:10 AM

fold... but I feel bad.

Komodo · #5 07-31-2005, 08:27 AM

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Easy fold I believe. Ive been burned once with a play like that. Only win 11$ when you win and risks much more. Risk/reward is bad for a call like this.

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I didn't think this was an *obvious* fold, but I did fold. I figured him for either an A or 8, with a small chance of bluffing.

The button did not show, but said he had a four. I find it hard to believe he would over-bet a four.

Other opinions?

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Thx for the result. He said he had a 4, which makes me more sure he had an 8 and feel disappointed for not making more money. Just my opinion. Well played!

SirFelixCat · #6 07-31-2005, 08:27 AM

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Easy fold I believe. Ive been burned once with a play like that. Only win 11$ when you win and risks much more. Risk/reward is bad for a call like this.

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I didn't think this was an *obvious* fold, but I did fold. I figured him for either an A or 8, with a small chance of bluffing.

The button did not show, but said he had a four. I find it hard to believe he would over-bet a four.

Other opinions?

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Quite possible he had the 4. He didn't put you on the 8. Therefore, with a "weak" $10 bet infront of him, he knows you can not call that bet w/o an 8. Good play by him, tough but proper fold by you, imo. I wouldn't like it, but I would find a better spot to risk my stack.

pokerjoker · #7 07-31-2005, 09:08 AM

You raised when you could have checked preflop....you have been playing tight...what hand with an 8 would you be doing that with? I cant think of any.

If he is a good player he would know this. If he had the A and he knows you dont have the 8 then why not try this?

Also is he a slowplayer?

Think what level he is thinking on. If he is thinking along the lines I mentioned I would probably call since he thinks you are weak.

Food for thought but I'd fold unless I knew my boss very well.