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07-30-2005, 08:39 AM
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Limti harder than NL?
If you want some entertainment, read the thread "Why choose Limit over No-Limit?" in Internet Gambling where all the limit players explain how limit is a much tougher game than NL.
This includes those who insist that with a $100 pot on the turn where they bet $10, they want a call from a flush draw as they have +EV because they will get his extra $10 80% of the time. I have tried and failed to point out the call is negative EV for them and they in fact insist that both the made hand and the chaser have +EV on the call. I need to go lie down. 
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#3
07-30-2005, 08:44 AM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
Yes NL is harder to play well, but...
[ QUOTE ] I have tried and failed to point out the call is negative EV for them and they in fact insist that both the made hand and the chaser have +EV on the call. [/ QUOTE ] That's because you are wrong.
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#4
07-30-2005, 09:04 AM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
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Yes NL is harder to play well, but... [ QUOTE ] I have tried and failed to point out the call is negative EV for them and they in fact insist that both the made hand and the chaser have +EV on the call. [/ QUOTE ] That's because you are wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong how? 100 in the pot plus 10 from you If he folds, you get $110 on average If he calls, you get 120 80% of the time and nothing 20% of the time. Therefore on average you get (120x4)/5 = $96 Therefore, if he calls, you lose $14. Perhaps you could point out the error (with the math of course)
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#5
07-30-2005, 09:07 AM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
Am I a tard or is 80% of 120 less than 100% of 100.
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#6
07-30-2005, 09:08 AM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
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Yes NL is harder to play well, but... [ QUOTE ] I have tried and failed to point out the call is negative EV for them and they in fact insist that both the made hand and the chaser have +EV on the call. [/ QUOTE ] That's because you are wrong. [/ QUOTE ]he is not wrong... bye.
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#7
07-30-2005, 10:34 AM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
the bet is +ev for you and -ev for him. your only alternative is to give a free card which is infinitely worse.
his call is +ev for him and -ev for you. you would have preferred he folded and took the pot right here.
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#8
07-30-2005, 10:41 AM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
limit is much harder to win in than NL, since the fish are attracted to NL and 90% of the players in limit poker @ the highest levels know exactly what they are doing and never make any mathematical errors unless the odds are almost even.
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#9
07-30-2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
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the bet is +ev for you and -ev for him. your only alternative is to give a free card which is infinitely worse. his call is +ev for him and -ev for you. you would have preferred he folded and took the pot right here. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, that is exactly the point I have been trying to get across on the Internet Gambling forum. I was trying to explain that in NL you can set create whatever odds you want for the caller whereas in limit its bet or don't bet.
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#10
07-30-2005, 12:02 PM
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Re: Limti harder than NL?
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limit is much harder to win in than NL, since the fish are attracted to NL and 90% of the players in limit poker @ the highest levels know exactly what they are doing and never make any mathematical errors unless the odds are almost even. [/ QUOTE ] So NL at the highest levels is full of fish? Try again.
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