Why choose Limit over No-Limit?

[pokerplayer28]

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take a NL player into a Limit game and all u will hear about is "I cant protect my damn hand"...well u can, u just have to learn how.

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I really agree with this. In my opinion, this is what makes limit an interesting game. Learning how to manipulate pot size and plan out lines over multiple streets to protect your hand is interesting and difficult due to the structure of the game. In no limit, it is trivial. You just bet a lot right now. This makes no limit an easier game to play in a lot of situations.

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so if you had a limit game with no check raise is that game even more difficult and complex now because it is even harder to protect your hand?

[bobbyi]

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so if you had a limit game with no check raise is that game even more difficult and complex now because it is even harder to protect your hand?

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One of the hardest decision in limit is picking between a bet and a check-raise. You often need to check-raise because betting will not protect your hand. This is different than in no limit where you can bet enough to protect your hand so you don't need to check-raise nearly as much.

By taking away the check-raise from limit, you dumb down the game in the same way that no limit does: the need to figure out when to check-raise to protect your hand goes away and so does the opportunity for expert play. Now the right strategy with a good hand is to just bet.

[oreogod]

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take a NL player into a Limit game and all u will hear about is "I cant protect my damn hand"...well u can, u just have to learn how.

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I really agree with this. In my opinion, this is what makes limit an interesting game. Learning how to manipulate pot size and plan out lines over multiple streets to protect your hand is interesting and difficult due to the structure of the game. In no limit, it is trivial. You just bet a lot right now. This makes no limit an easier game to play in a lot of situations.

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so if you had a limit game with no check raise is that game even more difficult and complex now because it is even harder to protect your hand?

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Only a tard would play in a Limit game with no checkraise. Check raises, period, are both good for play in limit and NL.

Edit: more so for limit...Bobbyi just posted a good run down.

[Rudbaeck]

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if its more difficult to win then its limit because its tougher to get your oppenents to make mistakes in limit than no limit
if its more difficult to play then its NL because NL is a more complex game.

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These two sentences can't both be correct. We make money in poker only from our opponents making mistakes. So the game where it's hardest to make your opponent make mistakes is the game that is hardest.

To branch of even further, the same betting form doesn't always have to be the hardest! NL is probably easier against total morons, while harder against seasoned pros than limit, if we assume deep stacks.

[pokerplayer28]

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so if you had a limit game with no check raise is that game even more difficult and complex now because it is even harder to protect your hand?

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One of the hardest decision in limit is picking between a bet and a check-raise. You often need to check-raise because betting will not protect your hand. This is different than in no limit where you can bet enough to protect your hand so you don't need to check-raise nearly as much.

By taking away the check-raise from limit, you dumb down the game in the same way that no limit does: the need to figure out when to check-raise to protect your hand goes away and so does the opportunity for expert play. Now the right strategy with a good hand is to just bet.

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To say adding options like the ability to bet what you want dumbs down the game the same as taking away an option like check raising is pretty well dumb.

[pokerplayer28]

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if its more difficult to win then its limit because its tougher to get your oppenents to make mistakes in limit than no limit
if its more difficult to play then its NL because NL is a more complex game.

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These two sentences can't both be correct. We make money in poker only from our opponents making mistakes. So the game where it's hardest to make your opponent make mistakes is the game that is hardest.

To branch of even further, the same betting form doesn't always have to be the hardest! NL is probably easier against total morons, while harder against seasoned pros than limit, if we assume deep stacks.

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its more difficult to make your opponents make mistakes in limit only because there are less oporotunities. imagine a 10-20 game where everyone antes $100 plus we still have blinds this game will be the most difficult to get your opponents to make mistakes that doesnt mean its a more complex or harder game.

[baronzeus]

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its more difficult to make your opponents make mistakes in limit only because there are less oporotunities.

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This is the opposite of the truth. Everytime your opponent calls your bet when he doesn't have the pot odds, he is making a mistake. This is usually on all 4 streets.

[jman220]

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Do the magical equity fairies come down and take it away?

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I have long suspected this was the case.

[TheHammer24]

IMO, you will find people who play limit primarily are better at NL, than exclusive NL players are at Limit. Anyone agree?

[pokerplayer28]

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its more difficult to make your opponents make mistakes in limit only because there are less oporotunities.

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This is the opposite of the truth. Everytime your opponent calls your bet when he doesn't have the pot odds, he is making a mistake. This is usually on all 4 streets.

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first they ussually have pot odds second you can make a correct call without pot odds.