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Old 07-29-2005, 01:16 PM
GSummers GSummers is offline
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Default Re: 56o in the BB. I call a raise.

Yeah I remember that hand well. On the flop I had an overpair, so I bet out, 1 caller, you raised. I thought you might have a 6 but what I was most concerned about was the caller. The pot was getting large and my hand was extremely vulnerable to overcards so I reraised to try and get him to fold. I got lucky on the river.
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:18 PM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: 56o in the BB. I call a raise.

I don't like the call. Even if you were the SB and there wasn't a raise, this is not a profitable call to make until you have at least 5 limpers. Pretty easy fold.

As for T9o vs 65o... that's due to domination by AT, A9 and so forth. In the same sense, if you know your opponent has a hand like AK/AQ, you would be much better off playing JTs than KQ, KJ or QJ.
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 56o in the BB. I call a raise.

I really don't see why this preflop call is bad. We're getting 9:1 with a connected/unlikely to be dominated hand. We're closing the action and have an easy muck on most boards with great check/raising potential if we do hit a hand. As a bonus we dominate a wheel draw.
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Old 07-29-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: 56o in the BB. I call a raise.

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I don't like the call. Even if you were the SB and there wasn't a raise, this is not a profitable call to make until you have at least 5 limpers. Pretty easy fold.

As for T9o vs 65o... that's due to domination by AT, A9 and so forth. In the same sense, if you know your opponent has a hand like AK/AQ, you would be much better off playing JTs than KQ, KJ or QJ.

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Yeah you're also much more vulnerable to straights when you hit 2 pair. Interestingly, 56o also has more equity than KQo given my assumptions. Given tighter players 56o dips only marginally, KQo sinks further.
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: 56o in the BB. I call a raise.

I think the preflop call is slightly +EV only because of your relative position. You have the virtual button.
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Old 07-30-2005, 01:27 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: 56o in the BB. I call a raise.

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I really don't see why this preflop call is bad. We're getting 9:1 with a connected/unlikely to be dominated hand. We're closing the action and have an easy muck on most boards with great check/raising potential if we do hit a hand. As a bonus we dominate a wheel draw.

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As shown on the pokerstove website, you need 13:1 to call profitably for an unsuited connector, and that's including generous implied odds. The immediate odds are more like 18:1 - 19:1. We are way, way short of this.
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