$15 - $30 NYC - When AKs doesn't hit

Philuva · #1 07-22-2003, 09:38 AM

Very loose crazy 10-20 with half-kill game, basically playing at 15-30 because every pot is 4 or 5 players for 3 bets.

This hand is 15-30 with me posting the $15 kill.

UTG who is not a rock but not loose aggressive raises UTG. A fold. Really Bad Fishy (RBF) player cold calls 2 (he will go to the end on a gutshot or bottom pair). Another fold. I make it 3 bets with AKs. Folded back to UTG who makes it 4 bets (a cap in this game). RBF cold calls 2 again. I call.

Flop is T83r none of my suit.

UTG bets. RBF calls. Question #1: What is your play?

Idecided to call.

Turn is a 2d, making 2 diamonds on the board of T832.

UTG bets again. RBF calls again. Question #2 What's your play?

Results to follow.
-Phil

EasyGoer · #2 07-22-2003, 10:11 AM

Due to the size of the pot and the raggedy board I would flat call the flop and the turn.

Buckshot · #3 07-22-2003, 11:04 AM

I think I would fold on the flop. Since you didn't I would surely fold on the turn.

~stephen

acewithaface · #4 07-22-2003, 11:39 AM

I think, you played it bad. Folding or raising the flop is much better. Against most aggressive opponents, raise on the flop, and fold to 3 bet. U are defintelybeat atleast by the fish I think.

bruce · #5 07-22-2003, 12:43 PM

I would either fold or call, probably because the pot being as large as it is and the slight possibility that my
hand still might be the best I would lean towards calling.
On the river if your opponent bets and the middle player folds then you have an easy call.

bruce

nykenny · #6 07-22-2003, 04:29 PM

hellos! is this Playstation? Do you know Chinese Kenny? Well that's me. Oh i think it's best to fold turn. Suppose u have a 6 outter, is 6BB worth chasing?

kenny

elysium · #7 07-23-2003, 02:44 AM

hi phil
you should fold here. you don't have the odds to make the over-call and you're down to 4 outs in a likely split pot if you get there. save your fight for better terms. fold.

Mano · #8 07-23-2003, 03:36 AM

If you don't fold on the flop, I think you have to raise. The raise should give you a better indication of where you are at (I would probably fold to a re-raise or a turn bet when I don't improve), and has the added benefit of quite possibly giving you the option for a free card on the turn. I think raising the flop makes this an easier hand to play.

tiltboy · #9 07-23-2003, 04:09 AM

Is your AKs in diamonds?

anatta · #10 07-23-2003, 04:20 AM

Just calling on the flop and folding the turn isn't bad, but I think a better play is to raise the flop. If you are re-raised folding at that point as some considered is a mistake. I think you must see the turn card getting over 20:1. I then fold the turn if I didn't improve.