Flopped nuts. made mistake on river

cs3 · #1 07-25-2005, 05:20 AM

(converter not working so I had to improvise)

Button $33
SB $14
BB Hero $40

Party Poker (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold.
button limps, SB completes, Hero raise to .50,butoon calls .5, SB raises to 1.75, Hero calls, BB calls

(Pot $7)Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
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SB bets 1, Hero calls, Button calls

(pot $10) Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
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SB bets 1, hero calss, BB calls

(pot 13) River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets 3, Hero raises 30, BB folds, SB calls $7 (all-in)
Final Pot:

Results in white below: 
SB has Kd Ah (two pair, kings and eights).
Hero has 8d 8c (four of a kind, eights).
Button has (four of a kind, eights).
Outcome: 

As soon as I bet $30 on the river I realized what a stupid bet that was. I shouldve raised just slighlty less than putting the shortsatcked SB all in, so about $6. Here's why:

SB was already comitted to the pot. He ws calling any bet, and would have to go all in here for $1 more on top of my raise. However, the smaller bet would be likely to entice a call from the Button as well, and when the SB raises it another $1 to go all in the betting is reopened. THEN shouldve put BB all in as well. He would be more likely to call now, and even if he folds I still make the extra $6.
(btw, after the hand BB said he folded a flsuh)
Now if I can just flop quads again...

yellowjack · #2 07-25-2005, 05:59 AM

Your positions are messed up throughout the hand.

keetz555 · #3 07-25-2005, 06:54 AM

So you both had quad eights... What's so spectacular about that?

cs3 · #4 07-25-2005, 05:05 PM

the hand converter is all screwed up. positions are wrong and the results are wrong.. we both couldnt have quad 8's obviously.

swolfe · #5 07-25-2005, 05:20 PM

betting would NOT have been reopened. his push is a $1 raise, which would not be a full legal raise.

also, raise the flop...take control from the gimp that is screwing up your mojo with the min-bets.

also, your minraise preflop sucks.

cs3 · #6 07-28-2005, 06:39 AM

why would that not be a legal full raise?

yes, preflop raise was weak, just trying to build a pot. and i called rather than raise the flop because i wanted to keep both players around as long as possible. anyone that is gonna stick around can only improve. why chase them out now?

gulebjorn · #7 07-28-2005, 06:49 AM

There is a difference between chasing them out and getting value for your hand.

#8 07-28-2005, 06:52 AM

just so you know... just remove the word texas from your pasted hand.. then convert.. works fine.

e.g.

$50 NL Texas Hold'em - etc etc....

replace with

$50 NL Hold'em - etc etc

DoomSlice · #9 07-28-2005, 07:22 AM

One of these sites... either Prima or Party used to (maybe still) allow you to raise an incomplete raise/bet.

Fun!