A tough game collision

[ike]

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Personally I find that tough and TAG games are great games b/c if you can read hands you can make some great plays that really can net you a lot more profit with less variability b/c you always know where you are at in a hand.

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Personally I find that games in which my opponents play poorly are much easier.

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In reality, I find that opponents that play predictably are much easier to play against.

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Either you're calling weak-tight games tough and TAG, or you're badly wrong. Tough TAG opponents are not predictable.

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You may be correct... as the majority of my play either occurs at my home casino in KC or in St. Louis or Tunica. I find that my best success comes in KC where the game is fairly predictable but the presence of LAG's are not overly common. I find that LAG's are much harder to play against!

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Ok, so long as you understand that your opponents playing better is never good for your bottom line you're allowed to prefer weak-tight idiots to loose-aggressive idiots. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[golferbrent]

The more idiots the merrier... I like a nice balance of LAG idiots and tight idiots!!! LOL! Good luck at the tables!

[phish]

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one thought: it's quite possible utg and bb are buddies and utg sent a simple signal of some sort that he had the nuts.

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This makes a lot of sense. I don't understand how someone who makes this fold could possibly afford to play high limits in SoCal.

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What little experience I have of the CA 40/80 games indicates that it doesn't take a lot to beat that game. He really doesn't need to play all that well to be a winner there.

[ZenMusician]

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You will always make more money off other's bad play than your own great play. It's a corollary to Sklansky's Fundemental Theory of Poker. You seek out games where you have to "rob" chips from good players. I'd rather play against donks who throw money at me. To each his own...

Meow.

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WELCOME BACK!!! (please stay)

-ZEN

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Predictable opponents are very easy to exploit and force into making mistakes!!

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Ok, let me clarify my statement again. YOU play against predictable opponents that can be forced into making mistakes. I'll play against the clueless who couldn't find the right play with a map. To each still his own...

Meow. =^._.^=

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I was never gone...just taking a long catnap.

Meow.

[andyfox]

Not just that, but good players make mistakes. It's what keeps them (and me) from being a great player. I beat that 40-80 game but I make lots of mistakes. It's rare that I leave from a session and think I didn't make one mistake.

[andyfox]

I don't see how UTG's play can be faulted. Q-Q is a must-raise pre-flop and then he milked the dream flop for the maximum.

If BB is as good as you say, then I suppose he can get away better than most with calling an UTG raise with K-To. I beat that 40-80 game and I don't think I can show a profit doing it against a good-playing UTG's raise. The fold on the turn strikes me as terrible: the turn card was a second heart; what would he put button on, pocket 6s? A-T? He's getting 9.5:1 here, may have the best hand, and probably has outs if he doesn't.

I don't mind button's cold-call pre-flop as much as some others do. While I have always been in the pump-or-dump camp, the Commerce 40-80 game has become wilder and woolier than ever and if one didn't know UTG I think a case can be made for calling with A-Q. I wouldn't think it could be too horrific a mistake.

If it were me, though, I'd have to dump to the turn 3-bet from UTG. As mike l. says, call-3-bet is rarely anything other than a monster.