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Old 07-28-2005, 03:27 AM
JasonP530 JasonP530 is offline
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Default Re: Gotta trust your reads and instincts

Ok Fan, let try some math on this one.

If you are right and he has a gutshot/flush draw, he has 18 outs on the river, which he hits 41% of the time.

If he has a made hand, lets generously give you 3 outs, so you win 6% of the time.

If you are 80% sure he is making a move then .8 x .41= .32
The other 20% is .2 x .06 is .1.

That leaves you with a 33% win when you are 80% sure. I dont feel like doing any more calculations, but you should be able to see where this is going....
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:11 PM
AceHiStation AceHiStation is offline
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Default Re: Gotta trust your reads and instincts

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Ok Fan, let try some math on this one.

If you are right and he has a gutshot/flush draw, he has 18 outs on the river, which he hits 41% of the time.

If he has a made hand, lets generously give you 3 outs, so you win 6% of the time.

If you are 80% sure he is making a move then .8 x .41= .32
The other 20% is .2 x .06 is .1.

That leaves you with a 33% win when you are 80% sure. I dont feel like doing any more calculations, but you should be able to see where this is going....

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All this math is pretty useless since you're not incorporating pot-odds.
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:37 AM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default Re: Gotta trust your reads and instincts

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I have been playing for about an hour at this 10-handed 2/4 table. Villain has been mostly dead money and has folded after calling flop/turn bets, and he has raised all in once or twice before this hand, not getting called. I have a somewhat aggressive image, but not out of hand.

Action is folded to Hero ($400) who is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in mp1 and raises to $20. Villain (covers me) in mp2 calls, button (350) calls and bb calls (250).

Flop ($79) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero bets $65, villain immediately calls, others both fold.

Turn ($209) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets $180, villain raises me all in. Hero calls.

River ($839) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Results and analysis to come shortly.

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Results: I got lucky to be right
Analysis: I don't like money, so I figured I'd gamble
Seriously, if your only read on this guy is that he's folded a couple times, bet a couple times, and might be dead, then that is so vague I don't understand how you differentiate him from any other weak player.
Given that, I don't see how you can decide to go to the felt here w/AK and not every other time you have AK unimproved.
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