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Old 07-27-2005, 07:16 AM
sahala sahala is offline
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Default 10+1 checkup (421 games)

This is my 2nd batch of 500 11s. My last ROI was at 15% and I felt comfortable at the 11s but wanted to do another 500 before hitting the 22s to improve my ROI, build up a bankroll, and basically feel more confident. Right now I've dipped down to around 9% and I don't feel confident about the move to 22s, even if I have another 79 to go. If necessary I'll do another 200-300.

I've had a downswing in the last 120. I understand there's variance, but if some of you experienced guys can do a sanity check on my SNG graphs I'd be really appreciative.

SNG graphs

For the last 100 I feel like I've barely been eeking into 3rd place, and if it's heads up I'm usually short stacked by 3:1. I plan on taking a break for a week to study my HH and identify trouble spots, in particular the 4th and 6th place finishes. Is there anything else I should drill down on?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-27-2005, 07:24 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

When you're short-stacked ITM just take more risks, that's what I do, and don't let your opponent rest for a second HU in the same situation.

Like this

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (3 handed) converter

Hero (t1125)
BB (t4100)
Button (t2775)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1125 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t975.

Flop: (t2250) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2250) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2250) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2250

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qh Td (full house, tens full of jacks).
BB has Ac 9d (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t2250. </font>
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:43 AM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

Very nice stats. +50% top 4 finishes. The high 6th place finishes may mean you are either losing to many chips with marginal hands or being too aggressive early. As you said you would, study those HH's and see.

Very high ITM vs 4ths. I'd say good overall, but guess that you are not playing the bubble aggressively enough thus, "barely eeking into 3d place."

Finish your remaining games to 1000 or whatever. Move up to the 22's!
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:48 AM
mlagoo mlagoo is offline
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

i think you've got to up the aggression on the bubble.

actually, i don't really get it. you have a ton of 4ths and also a ton of 3rds. im not even sure hows thats possible.

but that many 3rds is pretty rough. missing out on a lot of money there. my 3rd-1st percentages (offhand, i'm at work now) are something like 9% 3rd, 14% 2nd, 16% 1st. helps make up for all my freakin 4th-7ths.

edit: just to say that at the end of the day, you're still winning, and thats the main thing. keep it up. these are just suggestions i guess so you can win more. heh. good luck.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

Mine's about the same, but my 4th's are even less than my 3rds, which is weird. Still got those damn 6th's that are equal to my 1st's though. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

I'm sorry - off topic. But where did you get those graphs? They look incredible.

j.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:56 AM
mlagoo mlagoo is offline
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

i'm thinking now that maybe you're tightening up around ~6 players left, and that's why you're going out between 4th and 3rd so frequently. you're running out of chips.

maybe you just need to loosen up and get aggressive around that time, so you can start taking chips from all the other tight players. I tend to enter the money with the chip lead, and it really helps being able to take the loss when you get in as a 60-40 favorite and still have chips to work with.
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

nice results.
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:46 AM
horne_dawg horne_dawg is offline
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

Jay this is what your are looking for;

NEW Spreadsheet: 2.4b w/ Daily Summary
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:05 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: 10+1 checkup (421 games)

the high 3/4 then 2nd then 1st tells me u aren't being aggressive on the bubble so u are getting blinded out of a lot of tourneys...when u do make it itm, u have hardly any chips, so u get called when u push so u get a coinflip...u lose and are 3rd or u win and still are low on chips


try being more aggressive in the bubble...push into a stack that is roughly the same size as yours (w/in a few bbs) when the big stack is out and u'll find that they fold a lot of times


u'll end up having more 1sts and 4th/5th than 2/3 and your roi will increase

my roi is higher than my itm and my 1sts are equal to 2+3 and greater than any other single occurance since i've started reading posts on here and learning how to steal on the bubble
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