3 4/8 hands

[onegymrat]

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The ace on the turn made it a lot easier to execute this plan as I thought I might be ahead at that point and, if not, have gained extra outs.

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The ace on the turn just doomed you to call more bets, not extra outs. The likelihood of someone having two pair with the ace is very high. Also, this board is too coordinated. You are behind way too often here and will need the flush card for sure. Remember the type of table you're playing. See my previous reply.

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Same guy as in hand2.

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That wasn't me, was it?

[hobbsmann]

who else likes a preflop raise in hand 1 as well?

[meep_42]

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who else likes a preflop raise in hand 1 as well?

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The only good thing about that hand is the suitedness. You're quite likely dominated somewhere and a free turn doesn't really help you out that much, if you get offered it. So, no, I don't like a PF raise.

-d