AJo Played bad?

POKhER · #1 07-26-2005, 06:36 AM

Flop call bad? i figure i have gutshot, outs to an ACE if he has a king? etc?

Should i have raised the river?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, CO folds, Hero calls, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

BatsShadow · #2 07-26-2005, 07:15 AM

This hand looks very strange to me. I don't know if I can put anyone on any specific hand.

Whatever, I think your flop call is fine.

Results?

Fadook · #3 07-26-2005, 07:18 AM

Bet the flop. You have a BDFD, 3 clean outs to the nut straight, and an overcard. Play could change quite a bit from this point, depending on whether BB calls or raises. The way you played it, I think you shuold raise the river for value.

POKhER · #4 07-26-2005, 07:21 AM

Flop: I had BB on KING. So i assume my outs is one OC(2) + Gut shot(3). So 5Outs = 8.2:1

Turn: I put him on FlushDraw(freecard), Ten, Overcards.

River: I hit my Jack, Mp2 bets i know im beating him and i wanted to raise, Don't know why i didnt.

Result:
I won jack 1 pair.

Dave G. · #5 07-26-2005, 08:10 AM

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Bet the flop. You have a BDFD, 3 clean outs to the nut straight, and an overcard. Play could change quite a bit from this point, depending on whether BB calls or raises. The way you played it, I think you shuold raise the river for value.

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Betting an unimproved overcard with nothing but a gutshot and backdoor flush draw into a field of 5 is a bad idea. Do you think everyone is going to fold? You don't have enough equity for this to be for value, so the only possible reason to bet is because you expect everyone to fold. This is unrealistic at best.

kapw7 · #6 07-26-2005, 08:12 AM

Raise the river

EDIT: too late for this you already posted the reults. Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

McGahee · #7 07-26-2005, 08:13 AM

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Bet the flop. You have a BDFD, 3 clean outs to the nut straight, and an overcard. Play could change quite a bit from this point, depending on whether BB calls or raises. The way you played it, I think you shuold raise the river for value.

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Betting an unimproved overcard with nothing but a gutshot and backdoor flush draw into a field of 5 is a bad idea. Do you think everyone is going to fold? You don't have enough equity for this to be for value, so the only possible reason to bet is because you expect everyone to fold. This is unrealistic at best.

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Yeah, I'm an autobettor and even I wouldn't bet here.
I'd probably fire on the river though.

karitek · #8 07-26-2005, 08:21 AM

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Bet the flop. You have a BDFD, 3 clean outs to the nut straight, and an overcard. Play could change quite a bit from this point, depending on whether BB calls or raises. The way you played it, I think you shuold raise the river for value.

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the BDFD is very weak (one card in your hand and the 4th nuts) - i don't think i would count outs for it at all.

i'd just bet out the river - you don't want it to get checked through again.

Duerig · #9 07-26-2005, 09:15 AM

After that puss fest on the turn, I would probably bet the river.

sirana · #10 07-26-2005, 09:42 AM

grunch

flopcall is fine in my oppinion, getting 10-1 and closing the action.
If I don't have any reads about MP2, I probably just call the river. MP2 could have completed a straight and you might get overcalls from BB or MP1 if you don't raise.
The only hands that call your raise of which you are ahead are Jx and you might be behind to a timid king or a completed straight.
Furthermore, if MP2 is bluffing you don't gain anything by raising and you also drive BB and MP1 out, which might have called for one bet.