Hypothetical Question

#1 07-24-2005, 12:39 AM

Theoretically the anwser is yes.

In reality the anwser is no.

ClaytonN · #2 07-24-2005, 12:45 AM

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Theoretically the anwser is yes.

In reality the anwser is no.

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This is so dumb, no offense.

If you played 1 million SNG's starting with 1000 chips, and then 1 million SNG's starting with 1045, the 1 million with 1045 chips would have a higher ROI, WITHOUT QUESTION. The mathematical and theoretical answer must be recognized, because you need to approach your winnings long term.

This is like me giving you 10 quarters and a dime every day for 20 years. If you threw away that dime every day, thinking "I don't need it, it's only a dime, in the real world this is nothing", but 20 years later accounts for a shatloud of dimes.

#3 07-24-2005, 01:07 AM

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If you played 1 million SNG's starting with 1000 chips, and then 1 million SNG's starting with 1045, the 1 million with 1045 chips would have a higher ROI, WITHOUT QUESTION. The mathematical and theoretical answer must be recognized, because you need to approach your winnings long term.

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As I have already pointed out, we could sit here and argue the mathematical stand point of this for days. There is no doubt that there is an edge, but the size of this edge is the question.

Sure, over one million sngs, even a slight edge will show up as a big edge. There is no doubt you have a small edge in this situation over a LARGE sample size such as 1 million games, but when I first read this post I was under the assumption that he meant a single game, in which case there is a small, but close to no increase in ROI.

curtains · #4 07-24-2005, 01:13 AM

btw to those who said it means nothing or next to nothing. This basically means if its a 4 way pot with 60 chips in the middle, and you somehow knew you could steal the pot 80-90% of the time with a potsized bet, thered really be no reason to since it wont effect your results!

Daliman · #5 07-24-2005, 01:15 AM

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btw to those who said it means nothing or next to nothing. This basically means if its a 4 way pot with 60 chips in the middle, and you somehow knew you could steal the pot 80-90% of the time with a potsized bet, thered really be no reason to since it wont effect your results!

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For a chess god, you sure don't know proper word usage

curtains · #6 07-24-2005, 01:18 AM

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btw to those who said it means nothing or next to nothing. This basically means if its a 4 way pot with 60 chips in the middle, and you somehow knew you could steal the pot 80-90% of the time with a potsized bet, thered really be no reason to since it wont effect your results!

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For a chess god, you sure don't know proper word usage

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I could beat you in Scrabble + Boggle too!!!!!

45suited · #7 07-24-2005, 01:15 AM

Weakling, I think you're underestimating the advantage that you would have with 50 extra chips. Not huge, but not so small that it would take 1 million games to show up either. If 50 chips were nothing, then why not limp 3 times every game in level one with speculative hands like suited connectors? The fact that most players don't advocate this shows that 50 chips are not entirely meaningless.

#8 07-24-2005, 01:33 AM

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If 50 chips were nothing, then why not limp 3 times every game in level one with speculative hands like suited connectors?

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Why not?

Unless you a terrible post flop player (keep in mind that hold'em IS a psot flop game...) then this should not hurt your game. In fact, this should increase your ROI, especially at lower limits.

Daliman · #9 07-24-2005, 01:36 AM

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If 50 chips were nothing, then why not limp 3 times every game in level one with speculative hands like suited connectors?

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Why not?

Unless you a terrible post flop player (keep in mind that hold'em IS a psot flop game...) then this should not hurt your game. In fact, this should increase your ROI, especially at lower limits.

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Oh my....

#10 07-24-2005, 01:56 AM

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If 50 chips were nothing, then why not limp 3 times every game in level one with speculative hands like suited connectors?

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Why not?

Unless you a terrible post flop player (keep in mind that hold'em IS a psot flop game...) then this should not hurt your game. In fact, this should increase your ROI, especially at lower limits.

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Oh my....

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What is wrong?
Are you not confident enough to play suited connectors on the flop?