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Old 07-20-2005, 04:25 PM
coolhandluke coolhandluke is offline
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

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It seems odd that god would command us not to take steps to verify his existence. If my belief in god is supposed to be completely based on faith, then how do I chose between the Jewish god and other gods who I am supposed to accept purely based on faith?

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Uhmmm, By definition faith is without proof.

faith n.
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

Also, a catholic, (or most magisterial, liturgical protestants) would tell you the chief purpose of man is to bring glory to God, and that this is only done through FAITH. (See definition above, the confident belief in a God you have no physical proof of.)
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

If the atheist doubles his bet after every loss, he is sure to win. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

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If the atheist doubles his bet after every loss, he is sure to win. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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nice, that would be an unbeatable strategy, dang, there went my whole belief system!!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

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Uhmmm, By definition faith is without proof.

faith n.
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

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I understand the definition of faith. But you still haven't answered my question: How am I supposed to choose between gods?
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

allright, I'm enjoying this, but have to duck into a meeting, got a kind of long answer coming, I'll post it soon.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

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If the atheist doubles his bet after every loss, he is sure to win.

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Maybe, I guess it depends what you mean by 'sure'. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

After the 24th loss he would be -8,388,608

After the 25th loss he would be -16,777,216

So - If he lost 24 in a row, he would have a very hard time catching up and obviously can't recoup all of the loss with the 25th win. (His roll is 10,000,000)

The odds of his losing 24 in a row for an even game are:

16,777,215:1 against

Someone please let me know if this is wrong.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

I'm pretty sure it was a joke referring to the other post here on the stupid Martingale system.
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: An experiment to prove or disprove the power of prayer

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I'm pretty sure it was a joke referring to the other post here on the stupid Martingale system.

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I know.

I posted 32 of the replies in that thread.

You need to tweak your sarcasm detector a little...
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