Overcalling or raising on the river?

Falcon900EX · #1 07-20-2005, 12:50 PM

My reads were,
SB:SLP-P,UTG1-LA-P,CO-rock.

I think overcalling would be better on this hand what do you guys think?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Lurkmaster Flex · #2 07-20-2005, 01:15 PM

I like overcalls a bit more because of the flush card coming, most worse aces arent going to call 2 cold here.

W. Deranged · #3 07-20-2005, 01:28 PM

I think Lurk is on the right track here:

1. I don't see any "promotion" value in a raise here. A six (which missed a river bet), a small flush, etc... are not folding here if you raise. So I don't see any better hands you drive out by raising.

2. I don't think you'll be ahead on average of any hand that cold-calls two on the river here.

3. Just calling may encourage worse aces or other such hands to call here.

4. Getting three-bet by a rivered flush would really suck. Getting put to a decision where you have to fold at this point would suck.

5. With the pot four-handed I think the overcalls make up for any value you might lose by not raising CO (who could well have a worse A).

I think this looks like a pretty standard overcall situation here.